Question / Help Problems with my Stream and System pls Help

Nashannata · Jun 4, 2013

Hello everybody.

Hope someone here can Help me.

I've got a Problem.
I'm very interessted in Streaming f.e. on Twitch.tv.
And the Game i want to use is Minecraft.
With your software.

My System:
WIN7 x64
2x 4GB DDR3 Ram
Nvidia Geforce 560 TI GTX DDR5
4x3.2 GHZ AMD Cpu
Nvidia chipset UCC Mainboard.
100Mbit down 5Mbit Upload
javax64/32 both running on Gerforce card.
Normal SATA2 Harddiskdrive.

So here is the Problem.

Normaly some other streamers got a weaker PC and stream very good.

I Try it sometimes and the stream ist just jerking. And well my Game also. How can is get this fixed, stream good and play so everyone can watch. My English is bad i know. Because i'm from Germany and i found no help. Hopefully u can help me.

Thanks all for reading and helping.

Btw i have no idea about configuration of OBS and also need help for a good Config.

Thanks again to all.

Cloudwolf · Jun 4, 2013

please post a log so we can see the current settings you have your stream set to. Log files can be found in %appdata% obs/logs

Some culprits are Aero on and monitor capture is horrendously bad. I have heard there are some slight issues with Minecraft (unsure of this). Something to also know is Minecraft last time I had played it is really taxing on processors.

Nashannata · Jun 6, 2013

The last configuration i used: I Turned Aeror on / off tryed both

Code:

19:00:12: Open Broadcaster Software v0.522b - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
19:00:12: -------------------------------
19:00:12: CPU Name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
19:00:12: CPU Speed: 3214MHz
19:00:12: Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
19:00:12: stepping id: 3, model 4, family 15, type 0, extmodel 8, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
19:00:12: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
19:00:12: Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
19:00:12: Aero is Enabled
19:00:12: -------------------------------
19:00:12: OBS Modules:
19:00:12: Base Address     Module
19:00:12: 00260000         OBS.exe
19:00:12: 6A870000         OBSApi.dll
19:00:12: 71B40000         DShowPlugin.dll
19:00:12: 71800000         GraphicsCapture.dll
19:00:12: 717E0000         NoiseGate.dll
19:00:12: ------------------------------------------
19:00:12: Adapter 1
19:00:12:   Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti  
19:00:12:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1025966080
19:00:12:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3221106688
19:00:12: =====Stream Start: 2013-05-17, 19:00:12===============================================
19:00:12:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
19:00:12:   Base resolution: 1680x1050
19:00:12:   Output resolution: 1680x1050
19:00:12: ------------------------------------------
19:00:12: Loading up D3D10...
19:00:12: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{e9af3379-dc46-4e71-9c82-17529566f8d1}
19:00:12: ------------------------------------------
19:00:12: Using desktop audio input: Lautsprecher (VIA High Definition Audio)
19:00:12: ------------------------------------------
19:00:12: Using auxilary audio input: Mikrofon (VIA High Definition Audio)
19:00:12: ------------------------------------------
19:00:12: Audio Encoding: AAC
19:00:12:     bitrate: 128
19:00:12: Using graphics capture
19:00:12: ------------------------------------------
19:00:12: Video Encoding: x264
19:00:12:     fps: 40
19:00:12:     width: 1680, height: 1050
19:00:12:     preset: veryfast
19:00:12:     CBR: yes
19:00:12:     CFR: no
19:00:12:     max bitrate: 3200
19:00:12: ------------------------------------------
19:00:18: Total frames rendered: 211, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.47%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
19:00:18: =====Stream End: 2013-05-17, 19:00:18=================================================
19:00:22: =====Stream Start: 2013-05-17, 19:00:22===============================================
19:00:22:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
19:00:22:   Base resolution: 1680x1050
19:00:22:   Output resolution: 1680x1050
19:00:22: ------------------------------------------
19:00:22: Loading up D3D10...
19:00:22: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{e9af3379-dc46-4e71-9c82-17529566f8d1}
19:00:22: ------------------------------------------
19:00:22: Using desktop audio input: Lautsprecher (VIA High Definition Audio)
19:00:22: ------------------------------------------
19:00:22: Using auxilary audio input: Mikrofon (VIA High Definition Audio)
19:00:22: ------------------------------------------
19:00:22: Audio Encoding: AAC
19:00:22:     bitrate: 128
19:00:22: Using graphics capture
19:00:22: ------------------------------------------
19:00:22: Video Encoding: x264
19:00:22:     fps: 40
19:00:22:     width: 1680, height: 1050
19:00:22:     preset: veryfast
19:00:22:     CBR: yes
19:00:22:     CFR: no
19:00:22:     max bitrate: 3200
19:00:22: ------------------------------------------
19:00:22: using memory capture
19:00:34: Total frames rendered: 439, number of frames that lagged: 66 (15.03%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
19:00:34: =====Stream End: 2013-05-17, 19:00:34=================================================
23:00:05: =====Stream Start: 2013-05-17, 23:00:05===============================================
23:00:05:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
23:00:05:   Base resolution: 1680x1050
23:00:05:   Output resolution: 1680x1050
23:00:05: ------------------------------------------
23:00:05: Loading up D3D10...
23:00:05: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{e9af3379-dc46-4e71-9c82-17529566f8d1}
23:00:05: ------------------------------------------
23:00:05: Using desktop audio input: Lautsprecher (VIA High Definition Audio)
23:00:05: ------------------------------------------
23:00:05: Using auxilary audio input: Mikrofon (VIA High Definition Audio)
23:00:05: ------------------------------------------
23:00:05: Audio Encoding: AAC
23:00:05:     bitrate: 128
23:00:05: Using graphics capture
23:00:05: ------------------------------------------
23:00:05: Video Encoding: x264
23:00:05:     fps: 30
23:00:05:     width: 1680, height: 1050
23:00:05:     preset: veryfast
23:00:05:     CBR: yes
23:00:05:     CFR: no
23:00:05:     max bitrate: 3200
23:00:05: ------------------------------------------
23:00:06: Total frames rendered: 34, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
23:00:07: =====Stream End: 2013-05-17, 23:00:07=================================================
23:54:10: =====Stream Start: 2013-05-17, 23:54:10===============================================
23:54:10:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
23:54:10:   Base resolution: 1680x1050
23:54:10:   Output resolution: 1680x1050
23:54:10: ------------------------------------------
23:54:10: Loading up D3D10...
23:54:10: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{e9af3379-dc46-4e71-9c82-17529566f8d1}
23:54:10: ------------------------------------------
23:54:10: Using desktop audio input: Lautsprecher (VIA High Definition Audio)
23:54:10: ------------------------------------------
23:54:10: Using auxilary audio input: Mikrofon (VIA High Definition Audio)
23:54:10: ------------------------------------------
23:54:10: Audio Encoding: AAC
23:54:10:     bitrate: 128
23:54:10: Using graphics capture
23:54:10: ------------------------------------------
23:54:10: Video Encoding: x264
23:54:10:     fps: 30
23:54:10:     width: 1680, height: 1050
23:54:10:     preset: veryfast
23:54:10:     CBR: yes
23:54:10:     CFR: no
23:54:10:     max bitrate: 3200
23:54:10: ------------------------------------------
23:54:10: using memory capture
23:54:12: Total frames rendered: 60, number of frames that lagged: 1 (1.67%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
23:54:12: =====Stream End: 2013-05-17, 23:54:12=================================================
23:54:13: =====Stream Start: 2013-05-17, 23:54:13===============================================
23:54:13:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
23:54:13:   Base resolution: 1680x1050
23:54:13:   Output resolution: 1680x1050
23:54:13: ------------------------------------------
23:54:13: Loading up D3D10...
23:54:13: Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{e9af3379-dc46-4e71-9c82-17529566f8d1}
23:54:13: ------------------------------------------
23:54:13: Using desktop audio input: Lautsprecher (VIA High Definition Audio)
23:54:13: ------------------------------------------
23:54:13: Using auxilary audio input: Mikrofon (VIA High Definition Audio)
23:54:13: ------------------------------------------
23:54:13: Audio Encoding: AAC
23:54:13:     bitrate: 128
23:54:13: Using graphics capture
23:54:13: ------------------------------------------
23:54:13: Video Encoding: x264
23:54:13:     fps: 30
23:54:13:     width: 1680, height: 1050
23:54:13:     preset: veryfast
23:54:13:     CBR: yes
23:54:13:     CFR: no
23:54:13:     max bitrate: 3200
23:54:13: ------------------------------------------
23:54:13: using memory capture
23:54:14: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
23:54:14:   Server selection: rtmp://live-fra.justin.tv/app
23:54:16: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
23:54:16: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
23:54:39: Total frames rendered: 609, number of frames that lagged: 61 (10.02%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
23:54:39: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
23:54:39: Number of times waited to send: 2, Waited for a total of 8194 bytes
23:54:39: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
23:54:39: =====Stream End: 2013-05-17, 23:54:39=================================================
23:54:41: 
23:54:41: Profiler results:
23:54:41: 
23:54:41: ==============================================================
23:54:41: frame - [100%] [avg time: 16.422 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 75.3%] [unaccounted: 24.7%]
23:54:41: | scene->Preprocess - [0.0244%] [avg time: 0.004 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
23:54:41: | video encoding and uploading - [75.2%] [avg time: 12.356 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 74.5%] [unaccounted: 0.755%]
23:54:41: | | CopyResource - [1.11%] [avg time: 0.183 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:54:41: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [1.63%] [avg time: 0.268 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:54:41: | | call to encoder - [71.5%] [avg time: 11.737 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:54:41: | | sending stuff out - [0.268%] [avg time: 0.044 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
23:54:41: ==============================================================
23:54:41:

FerretBomb · Jun 6, 2013

It looks like you're using Monitor Capture (unless I'm mis-remembering what the logging facility calls it) which is known to be extremely laggy on Windows 7, with Aero on or off. Try using Window or Game Capture instead, if possible.
I'd also recommend downscaling from 1680x1050 to 720p, and framerate down to 30 from 40, just as a testing point.

Do run this (the 6MB option): http://testmy.net/upload
to get a good idea of your real-world upload speeds; no dropped frames means that the bitrate is less-likely to be an issue, but it's good information to have.

Nashannata · Jun 6, 2013

how is the option for 720p?

FerretBomb · Jun 6, 2013

I didn't realize at first; 1680x1050 is a 16:10 ratio. You'll need to set your base resolution to a 16:9 (1920x1080 or 1600x900) and then use the Downscale option from there to get a 'true' 720p.
What were the testmy.net results?

Nashannata · Jun 7, 2013

im not at home atm. But i know my Upload beacause i pay for it and test it dayling. Its about 4.8 Mbits ^^

FerretBomb · Jun 7, 2013

Yes, but is that peak, or steady? The link I provided will give your real-world stable throughput, not just peak file transfer rate. Streaming, you only care about the actual, stable rate, not the peak or advertised rate.

For example, I pay for a connection with 5mbps upload. My stable rate is actually between 2.8 and 3.2 mbps. Speedtest shows it at 5mbps, because it only cares about the total rate for a given file. I might spike to 10mbps, and drop to 2.8... for a file transfer, that's fine. For streaming, it definitely is NOT. You need the lowest-rate to know your own worst-case/average scenario, and configure your settings based on that, as it's the most your livestream will be able to run with... not on how long it takes to transfer a single 'dead' file, where the faster peaks average it out.

Nashannata · Jun 8, 2013

okay the result says 900kb ôo

dodgepong · Jun 8, 2013

Can you run ShaperProbe and paste the results here, too? http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffpr ... probe.html

Nashannata · Jun 9, 2013

DiffProbe release. January 2012. Build 1008.
Shaper Detection Module.

Connected to server 80.239.142.202.

Estimating capacity:
Upstream: 5040 Kbps.
Downstream: 134788 Kbps.

The measurement will take upto 3.0 minutes. Please wait.

Checking for traffic shapers:

Upstream: No shaper detected.
Median received rate: 4928 Kbps.

Downstream: Measurement aborted due to high packet loss rate.

For more information, visit: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffprobe

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