Question / Help Problems with freezing on twitch

[Espen Sætre]

Hey guys

Pretty new to the streaming sensation, other than watching them.

Anyhow. Been trying to start up my stream, but i'm running into a lot of issues. For a while I really had no clue what to do, but i think i've now pretty much read every thread and/or guide/compared settings with other streamers from my area etc etc.

My problem isn't dropping frames in OBS or anything like that, it's bitrate, somehow. I've attached a logfile to show my settings etc, but i'm pretty sure they are mostly cookie cutter, as the guides i've read suggests. I'm using CBR, 2500 bitrate, padding, streaming to the best server (checked with the tool), but every 5-10 seconds my stream will lag when wathing through twitch.tv. It will continue doing so until eventually reaching 50-70 Latency to Broadcaster, at which the entire stream freezes completely, and only reloading page will resolve this.

https://gist.github.com/f032bf96ee38925f4f01



I've called my ISP, they are standfast at not being part of the problem, and have also sent them traceroutes to the stockholm server, so they can check internally if something is messed up. I'll also post this data.

Anyone got any idea what's wrong? I can watch pretty much any stream on twitch without having any issues, from 1080p60fps to 480p30fps without being able to replicate the issues i'm facing. From several thousand viewers to just a couple. I got a friend that streams, her stream is called Dinaplays. I've copied her settings seeing as we're both from oslo, but to no avail. I see no reason that she should be able to stream lag free, when i'm not. She does not have tons of viewers per broadcast.

I have tried watching a replay of one of my streams (on twitch). These are lag free, it's only when I am live that stuff freezes up.


I would very much appreciate any help, as starting a stream up is impossible if the live stream is unbareable to watch.
Thanks in advance.

//Sneiper

Traceroutes:
C:\Users\Sneiper>tracert Live-arn.Twitch.TV

Tracing route to Live-arn.Twitch.TV [185.42.205.239]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 14 ms 3 ms 14 ms 1.51-175-128.customer.lyse.net [51.175.128.1]
3 20 ms 19 ms 57 ms 219.213-167-114.customer.lyse.net [213.167.114.219]
4 15 ms 8 ms 7 ms oso-b3-link.telia.net [62.115.54.181]
5 13 ms 20 ms 19 ms s-bb3-link.telia.net [62.115.134.10]
6 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms s-b6-link.telia.net [62.115.136.23]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

C:\Users\Sneiper>tracert Live-arn.Twitch.TV

Tracing route to Live-arn.Twitch.TV [185.42.205.239]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 16 ms 19 ms 18 ms 1.51-175-128.customer.lyse.net [51.175.128.1]
3 14 ms 8 ms 19 ms 219.213-167-114.customer.lyse.net [213.167.114.219]
4 15 ms 18 ms 9 ms oso-b3-link.telia.net [62.115.54.181]
5 14 ms 18 ms 9 ms s-bb3-link.telia.net [62.115.134.10]
6 14 ms 18 ms 11 ms s-b6-link.telia.net [62.115.136.23]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

C:\Users\Sneiper>tracert Live-arn.Twitch.TV

Tracing route to Live-arn.Twitch.TV [185.42.205.239]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 15 ms 17 ms 10 ms 1.51-175-128.customer.lyse.net [51.175.128.1]
3 10 ms 5 ms 5 ms 219.213-167-114.customer.lyse.net [213.167.114.219]
4 13 ms 8 ms 13 ms oso-b3-link.telia.net [62.115.54.181]
5 18 ms 13 ms 13 ms s-bb3-link.telia.net [62.115.134.10]
6 11 ms 19 ms 19 ms s-b6-link.telia.net [62.115.136.23]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.

 

[Espen Sætre]

Also attached a screen of my OBS for good measure. As you can see, there are no dropped frames.

 

[Harold]

http://obsproject.com/forum/threads...oads-constantly-for-my-viewers-but-why.18465/

 

[Espen Sætre]

Thanks for the reply Harold.

However I have already read that thread. and it does not explain how a friend of mine, that lives just a few kilometers away from me, with identical settings, can stream lag free to the same server, and I have no issues wathing her stream. And neither does anyone else.

 

[Harold]

You have to realize one thing.

The server you send your stream to is almost never the one you watch your stream from.

And if they're partnered and you're not, then your viewers watch your stream from a different server than their viewers watch their stream from.

 

[Espen Sætre]

Yeah, i've figured out as much. I've been doing a lot of reading on the subject. But my friend is not partnered either. So we should be working with the same parameters here.
I honestly believe there is something not working as it should here. Although I wouldn't be shocked if proved otherwise.
It seems though that you are under the assumption that this automatically falls under the category of "haven't understood how it works" and therefore respond accordingly. But I am pretty sure i've understood most negative aspects of twitch streaming by now, but I'm not gonna call myself no master either (not meant as a bitter tone, don't get me wrong).

I just don't get how 2 streams pretty much identical (apart from who's streaming and what channel) can act so differently, when geo location is the same, and all other parameters are aswell. That's the part making me believe there must be something else at play here.

 

[Espen Sætre]

Not trying to prove you wrong, just for the sake of the argument. I'm just not convinced that the stream server is the accurate reason for fault :)