Question / Help Problem Recording with new update

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zadarkus

New Member
Hey guys,
BEfore the update I was recording gameplay (local recording) just fine.
I used advanced options:
Custom x264 Encoder Settings : crf=24

And on the Encoding window I would simply put Max Bitrate = 1000 Buffer Sieze = 0 since the Custom crf=24 would overwrite this.

I was happy with the quality / file size. A 30 mins video would be something like 800 mb.


With this new update i just cant get this right again.

I tried Econding (all options disabled) Max BItrate= 1000 Buffer Sieze is disabled so nothing there
Advanced Custom x264 crf=25 the video quality kinda is similar, but i noticed some shutering or frame drops but well..

The major issue is that now a 5 mins long video is making a 400 mb file
When before I could record with crf 24 and 30 mins would be 800mb ...

Any Idea?
 
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zadarkus

New Member
ok, now i tried this settings and all i got was a uber poor quality like 125p or worse.
Code: 
Open Broadcaster Software v0.50b - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
CPU Speed: 2395MHz
Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.2 Build 9200 
Aero is Enabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 33554432
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1711276032
------------------------------------------
Adapter 2
  Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 3221225472
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1073676288
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 21:25:11===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device {0.0.0.00000000}.{461b3c14-0746-4b91-9a6e-b64444afa356}
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Altifalantes (Dispositivo de áudio USB)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microfone (Yeti Stereo Microphone)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
------------------------------------------
    device: BisonCam, NB Pro,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_5986&pid_014c&mi_00#7&50ae348&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\global,
    chosen type: YUY2, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, frameIntervals: 1000000-1000000, fourCC: 'YUY2'
    audio device: (null),
    audio device id (null),

Using directshow input
Using graphics capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=25"
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 1000
    buffer size: 1000
    quality: 7
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 12329, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.01%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 21:32:04=================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 3.344 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 92.5%] [unaccounted: 7.48%]
| scene->Preprocess - [9.54%] [avg time: 0.319 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [83%] [avg time: 2.775 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 82.7%] [unaccounted: 0.269%]
| | CopyResource - [0.449%] [avg time: 0.015 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.269%] [avg time: 0.009 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [81.7%] [avg time: 2.733 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.269%] [avg time: 0.009 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================





Can it be that the Costum Setting where I used CRF=24 dosent work anymore or isnt overwriting?
 
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Lain

Forum Admin
Lain
Forum Moderator
Developer
you'll probably have to set the buffer size manually, as you can see in the log file it set it to 1000. probably due to the new update.

however if you're using local recording there are better ways than those settings to do it. that's an unusually low bitrate for local recording. it's going to look horrible. what you want is maybe around 8000/8000, crf=18, then it'll look fantastaic and still have a decent file size.
 
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zadarkus

New Member
Jim said:
you'll probably have to set the buffer size manually, as you can see in the log file it set it to 1000. probably due to the new update.

however if you're using local recording there are better ways than those settings to do it. that's an unusually low bitrate for local recording. it's going to look horrible. what you want is maybe around 8000/8000, crf=18, then it'll look fantastaic and still have a decent file size.
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I understand thank you.
But i imagine those recording would be around 4 GB 30 mins,
On this starting phase I was doing it so it would be around 800 mb each 30mins.

So you record it like that and what software do you use to edit the video in order to reduce the file size?
Thank You

I will still use your tip and see how it ends.

My main problem is that the videos is for youtubeupload with a 2MB upload speed, true I want good quality but 4gb files wil take forever to upload
 
Xphome

Xphome

Member
Buffer size 0 works for me with 0.50

Code: 
Open Broadcaster Software v0.50b - 64bit (　^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Speed: 3403MHz
Physical Memory:  15825MB Total, 9099MB Free
stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 3: pos={-1280, 56}, size={1280, 1024}
Windows Version: 6.2 Build 9200 
Aero is Enabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 2091581440
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 2147479552
------------------------------------------
Adapter 2
  Video Adapter: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 503316480
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1375731712
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 18:34:03===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: G35 (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: G35 Mic (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 160
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using Monitor Capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=15"
x264: VBV maxrate specified, but no bufsize, ignored
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 40000
    buffer size: 0
    quality: 17
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 1169, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.09%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 1 (0.09%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 18:34:42=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 18:35:00===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: G35 (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: G35 Mic (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 160
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using Monitor Capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=15"
x264: VBV maxrate specified, but no bufsize, ignored
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 40000
    buffer size: 0
    quality: 17
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 774, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 18:35:26=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 18:35:39===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: G35 (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: G35 Mic (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 160
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using Monitor Capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=15"
x264: VBV maxrate specified, but no bufsize, ignored
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 40000
    buffer size: 0
    quality: 17
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 74, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 18:35:41=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 19:06:08===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: G35 (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: G35 Mic (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 160
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using Monitor Capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=15"
x264: VBV maxrate specified, but no bufsize, ignored
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 40000
    buffer size: 0
    quality: 17
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 2226, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 19:07:22=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 19:34:49===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: G35 (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: G35 Mic (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 160
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using Monitor Capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=15"
x264: VBV maxrate specified, but no bufsize, ignored
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 40000
    buffer size: 0
    quality: 17
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 5522, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 19:37:53=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 21:02:25===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: G35 (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: G35 Mic (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 160
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using Monitor Capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=15"
x264: VBV maxrate specified, but no bufsize, ignored
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 40000
    buffer size: 0
    quality: 17
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 1924, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 21:03:29=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-23, 21:14:44===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: G35 (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: G35 Mic (4- Logitech G35 Headset)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 160
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using Monitor Capture
Using custom x264 settings: "crf=15"
x264: VBV maxrate specified, but no bufsize, ignored
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 40000
    buffer size: 0
    quality: 17
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 2047, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-23, 21:15:53=================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.081 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 74.4%] [unaccounted: 25.6%]
| scene->Preprocess - [0.0481%] [avg time: 0.001 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [74.4%] [avg time: 1.548 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 73.6%] [unaccounted: 0.769%]
| | CopyResource - [0.529%] [avg time: 0.011 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0961%] [avg time: 0.002 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [71.8%] [avg time: 1.495 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [1.15%] [avg time: 0.024 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
 
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