Question / Help please help, first time streamer dropping frames

[DesiGamer]

Hey guys,

my computer specs:

i7 4770k OC 4.5ghz
XFX 7870 1GHz
16GB RAM 2133MHz
500GB SSD

Internet speed:

i have attached my log file... please help. i dont understand how to resolve this

 

[Sapiens]

Please refer to viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8870

 

[grufftech]

at first glance you're using the fast preset -- which is likely the cause of the issue, if you're gaming on the same machine you're streaming from.

Fast preset puts the hurt on most CPU's, and if you're playing games on top of that, you're gonna have a bad time

 

[Sapiens]

His issue is dropped frames, not late or duplicate frames. Dropped frames are purely bandwidth related, so the preset isn't going to have any effect on that. A 4770K is also more than capable of handling a 720p stream using the fast preset unless the game in question causes very high CPU load on its own.

 

[DesiGamer]

at first glance you're using the fast preset -- which is likely the cause of the issue, if you're gaming on the same machine you're streaming from.

Fast preset puts the hurt on most CPU's, and if you're playing games on top of that, you're gonna have a bad time

i am not even playing any game, I was just testing my streaming capabilities/settings using vlc to stream a 1080p movie to justin.tv thats all

 

[FerretBomb]

For a hard test (and to avoid running into any copyright issues, depending on the movie) I'd recommend copying the following code into a text file named streamtest.bat and running it. It opens a CMD window and generates strings of random numbers and text VERY quickly, and is a torture-test to make sure that your settings will handle nearly the worst-case-scenario (also remember to play some sound too, to simulate all aspects of a stream):

echo off
title Stream Test
MODE CON COLS=170 LINES=64
:begin

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random% 

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

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echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%
goto :begin

But yeah, that log shows that your connection can't handle the bitrate set, to the server you've selected. Try another ingest server (use the JTVPing app from teamliquid... google for it), or drop your bitrate. If you're non-partnered, the recommended maximum is still 2000kbps, even if the technical ingest recommended maximum is 3500.

Your handshake at ~260ms is fine. Note how you only drop 1% frames at 2000kbps, and 0 at 1500? Your connection throughput is almost absolutely the problem. Forget speedtest.net, it's next to worthless for livestreaming, as it tests a different transmission method than livestreaming uses.

 

[DesiGamer]

For a hard test (and to avoid running into any copyright issues, depending on the movie) I'd recommend copying the following code into a text file named streamtest.bat and running it. It opens a CMD window and generates strings of random numbers and text VERY quickly, and is a torture-test to make sure that your settings will handle nearly the worst-case-scenario (also remember to play some sound too, to simulate all aspects of a stream):

echo off
title Stream Test
MODE CON COLS=170 LINES=64
:begin

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random% 

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

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echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%

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echo %random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%%random%%random%­%random%%random%%random%
goto :begin

But yeah, that log shows that your connection can't handle the bitrate set, to the server you've selected. Try another ingest server (use the JTVPing app from teamliquid... google for it), or drop your bitrate. If you're non-partnered, the recommended maximum is still 2000kbps, even if the technical ingest recommended maximum is 3500.

Your handshake at ~260ms is fine. Note how you only drop 1% frames at 2000kbps, and 0 at 1500? Your connection throughput is almost absolutely the problem. Forget speedtest.net, it's next to worthless for livestreaming, as it tests a different transmission method than livestreaming uses.

Thanks, I contacted my ISP and managed to get the issue resolved. I am able to easily stream at 3.5mbps with fast preset at 720 60fps.

I have a question though. I was just testing that streamtest.bat you posted....is it normal for my computer that has a i7 4770k oced to 4.5ghz to run at 65% usage when running that streamtest.bat file?

i am attaching a log file just in case if that helps

 

[FerretBomb]

Well, yes. It's a torture test. Captured and stretched to fullscreen, it's nearly the worst-case-scenario (only worse would be multiple constantly changing colors and non-recompressible audio). So it's going to put a little strain on things. It's supposed to.
It also generates pseudorandom numbers as fast as possible with no limiter aside from the CMD window's refresh/execution rate.