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ajbunga

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Hi there, apologies if this is not allowed in these forums but I couldn't find a rule to suggest otherwise or a sub-section of the forums more appropriate to place this.

I'm basically looking for opinions on my stream quality from third parties. I only have a measly 1.1mb upload and I've captured the following using OBS with the following settings:

Base game res: 1920x1080
Res downscale: 480p
Bitrate: 950
FPS: 20
CPU Preset: Slow (I have a decent CPU for this)
Audio: AAC stereo 64kb

http://www.twitch.tv/ajbunga/b/654172436 - gameplay outside of char creation starts around 36 min mark. Unfortunately, the area I'm in in the game has a radial blur effect around the edges of the screen, think true indication of quality is toward centre.

As I only have a 1mb upload, I'm aware that it's gonna look pretty terrible compared to most streamers but I'm after constructive comments, i.e:

In your opinion, do you think it is watchable?

Is the quality good/what you'd expect for that upload speed or is there anything you think I could change to perhaps gain better quality results?

Thanks for any advice/response.
 
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Well without any video footage we cant really judge.

480p will always be blurry compared to 1080p and 20 fps wont look anywhere near as smooth as 60 but thats obviously nothing new.

question is rather is you connection fine with using over 0,9 of your 1,1 total upload.
 
Apologies, that would help wouldn't it! I've put the link in the OP now.

Well, I'm only planning to play single player games so I can obviously use more bandwidth because of that. I tried 1000 but was dropping frames occasionally, not often, but enough to make me question lowering it down to 950 where it seems to be stable in the games I've tested it in so far.
 
looking through your vod, so far its actually not that bad looking especially the fonts as long as they arent too small.

would like to see a logfile.
 
alpinlol said:
looking through your vod, so far its actually not that bad looking especially the fonts as long as they arent too small.

would like to see a logfile.
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Thank you. The fonts are mega small on DA: Origins it seems! I tried a few local streams with other games with larger UI's/HUDS and they were more readable.

I'm at work at the moment but happy to run off a logfile when I get home this evening.
 
You can easily do higher FPS, because FPS is mainly dealt by CPU instead of bandwidth, some times you have close to no additional bitrate.
You should try at least 24 FPS.
 
I think so too. The point is, that encoder sends the differences comparing earlier frames. If the difference is not that big, the additional bitrate is not that big either.

I did a guide for low upload speeds, like you have, with a table of recommended resolutions/fps for several bandwidths and some more information.


Edit: Stream quality itself looks fine, just a bit stuttery because of the low FPS.
 
Thanks for the prompt and helpful replies!

I will try raising the FPS up to 24-30 and see how that goes.

I'm glad it is at least watchable to the two of you so far! I just had a quick skim over your guide you mention Lazy, very informative thanks. I notice you mention being able to possibly attain a higher downscale res with our upload speeds? Is this something you think I should look into or do you think what I've got is probably as good as I'll achieve realistically?
 
I don't think, you should go with a higher resolution, even though 540p will give you an extremely better quality, but for this you should have at least 200 Kbit/s more than you got.

On my stream (I am playing Starcraft 2 while streaming) I achieve a pretty stable 432p @ 30 fps with 800 Kbit/s.

You have like 100 Kbit/s higher bandwidth and you dont play an online-game, which will give you like 100 Kbit/s more.

Regarding to my testing, you should be able to do 480p with 30 FPS, if you can do slow, it's great.
I don't recommend slower or medium.
 
Okay, I will stick with 480p in that case, thank you!

I will have a look at 24 / 30fps this evening hopefully and see how it all goes. Thanks for the help.

More opinions welcome on quality of the stream if anyone has anything to say :)
 
I'm pretty new to this so forgive me, is the purpose of a log file so you can see behind the scenes of my stream as it were, to check performance? Out of curiosity, why would you like mine?
 
to get an overview oh hardware/settings and how well your machine is doing its, maybe you can get even better quality
 
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