OBS Ducking Even When Source Is Hidden

[micahpwhite]

I figure I'm missing something obvious, but: My mic is set up as sidechain/ducking source over my background music and other such sources. That all works fine, but I use the same mic to talk to someone on Discord during my streams (and during breaks when I'm I'm muted to the stream and not on-camera), and the background audio is affected if I talk into the mic even when it is 1) hidden in a scene or 2) NOT in the given scene altogether.

Am I missing anything obvious? Are there any work-arounds? I *could* use a different mic to communicate on Discord during my streams, but thought I'd see if I'm missing something else first.

https://obsproject.com/logs/5NWOa0Zdg3Wwsmq-

 

[FerretBomb]

Does it do this with the mic source muted in OBS? If it's not muted (even if it isn't in a scene), then the filters referencing it will still be active. If the mic IS muted in OBS, it should not happen.

I can't say that I've run into this much, but I suppose that's largely because I try to avoid doing it other than as brief absolutely-vital asides... I see it as rude to my viewers to go and have an extended conversation with someone else, excluding them from a conversation that should otherwise happen off-stream.

 

[micahpwhite]

Totally get not having lengthy asides on normal streams; my setting is more of a corporate meeting thing where we give them breaks here and there, and that's when I'm trying to communicate with my "invisible" co-presenter.

To answer your question, yes! It IS happening even when the mic source is muted in OBS, which I too find weird.

After I just started this thread, I had the idea to create a quasi-duplicate audio capture device source -- same exact source with a different name and NO ducking set up on a filter. That seems to work with super-brief testing, thus far. Not my favorite work-around, though. (Also, I briefly tried using a nested scene where I could then have an unfiltered audio capture device source in the scene, and then filter the nested scene, but I only had the option for effects filters, not audio filters, so I gave up on that).

 

[micahpwhite]

^^ Just to clarify, keeping my original audio capture device WITH ducking, and adding a new audio capture device WITHOUT ducking (attached to the same device as the first) seems to work.

My initial fear was that there'd be a weird fade going from one to the other, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Perhaps that is because they're connected to the same device.