Question / Help OB-SOS : Recording Audio

[MUTANTELEVISION]

Hello everybody,

maybe some of y´all can help me out my misery :( .

I´m using OBS for the first time now and so far this has been a tuff ride for me, especially concerning recording audio. The rest works well and is easy to understand.

Thats my setup:

Gaming Headset with Micro (Plug, not USB) -> PC -> OBS Studio -> Headset chosen in Audio Settings as Mic and Headphone -> Advanced Settings -> Microphone set to Monitoring + Capture, likewise with Desktop Audio
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Thats my problem:
I´m hearing myself two times. Like a weired echo. Beautiful to sing Queen songs, but horrible if you want to talk to someone. Could latency be the reason?

Thanks for your help!

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[koala]

By setting your mic to monitoring+capture, you create a feedback (or echo).The monitoring feature is meant for a director of a stream to check what's on a certain audio source, if he isn't listening to it by other means. You don't need to permanently monitor a source to capture it. Just "capture" it, without monitoring.

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

By setting your mic to monitoring+capture, you create a feedback (or echo).The monitoring feature is meant for a director of a stream to check what's on a certain audio source, if he isn't listening to it by other means. You don't need to permanently monitor a source to capture it. Just "capture" it, without monitoring.

Ok I see that, but how will be able to hear myself ?

 

[Suslik V]

If mic sound isolated from the speakers then nothing wrong. Monitoring output device (Settings>Advanced) shouldn't be set as capture source in OBS Studio (Sources list).

 

[koala]

You see the meter in OBS if you speak. Make a test recording, verify your voice is in the recording. Other than that, a device used for monitoring should not be used as capture source to avoid loopback.

 

[Suslik V]

Loopback not possible, it was excluded many patches ago. But the source itself still listed in Advanced Audio Properties for monitoring, just no sound.

Maybe mentioned echo - is filter from the sound card drivers (unfortunately, many people leave these filters enabled in Windows, while running capture).

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

First off, thank all of you very very much! I´ll check all of recommendations out as soon as I´m back from work and will then get back ASAP. Really appreciate it!

 

[koala]

@Suslik V Ah, I think I remember that setting. Usually, it's the first I deactivate whenever I plug in a new headset to avoid any mic echoes. With headsets, it's a property of the playback tab, not the recording tab. This is the layout for a usb device:

And this for the omnipresent Realtek HD audio onboard chipset:

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

I´m sorry guys, but this does´t work. Sure, I can record from the Headset Mic with no feedback, sound is crystal clear when I listen to the recording. But: I cant hear anything at all while I´m recording.

Is there any solution to this problem?

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

@Suslik V Ah, I think I remember that setting. Usually, it's the first I deactivate whenever I plug in a new headset to avoid any mic echoes. With headsets, it's a property of the playback tab, not the recording tab. This is the layout for a usb device:

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And this for the omnipresent Realtek HD audio onboard chipset:
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Wenn ich das Mikro ausstelle, dann nimmt OBS ja keinen TOn mehr auf :( ... Hab das auch ausprobiert.. hast du noch eine andere Idee ?

 

[koala]

Es gibt in Windows 2 Lautstärkeeinstellungen für das Mikrofon. Die eine ist die wichtige, die bestimmt, wie laut das Mikro aufgenommen wird. Die findet sich den Windows Soundeinstellungen in der Karteikarte Aufnahme->Name des Geräts->Pegel. Wie laut man es hier einstellt, so laut kommt es bei OBS oder anderen Programmen an. Hier muss natürlich ein Pegel > 0 eingestellt sein und es darf nicht gemutet sein.

Die andere bestimmt, ob man das, was ins Mikro gesprochen wird, direkt im Kopfhörer hört. Damit gibt Windows direkt die Aufnahme auf die Kopfhörer als Rückmeldung. Nicht OBS macht das, das ist eine Windows Funktion. Diese Einstellung findet man dort, wo es meine beiden obigen Screenshots zeigen - auf der Karteikarte Wiedergabe (nicht Aufnahme wie beim ersten!) für die Headset-Lautsprecher. Und das schalte ich persönlich immer aus, weil ich dieses audio-Feedback überflüssig und schädlich finde. Ob man hier ein- oder ausschaltet, hat keine Relevanz auf OBS.

Es gibt dann noch eine weitere Windows-Einstellung, mit dem man Aufnahmegeräte wie ein Mic auf einen Lautsprecher schalten kann, und zwar ist das wieder die Karteikarte Aufnahme wie oben im Screenshot, aber dann Karteikarte Abhören. Wenn man "Diees Gerät als Wiedergabequelle verwenden" ankreuzt, wird das, was das Mikro aufnimmt, auch nochmal auf das darunter angegebene Gerät ausgegeben. Vorsicht: hiermit bastelt man perfekte Rückkopplungsschleifen. Das vermeidet man tunlichst. Ursprünglich war diese Funktion für CD-Player der ersten Generation sinnvoll (frag nicht). Aktuell sinnvoll nur für Experten, wenn du deine Audio-Quellen auf verschiedene virtuelle Audio-Devices (VAC, Voicemeeter) aufteilst und auf Lautsprecher ausgeben willst. Um rauszufinden, wie man das genau macht, muss man ziemlich rumprobieren und rumklicken. Das ist abendfüllend.

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

Hey @koala , erstmal lieben Dank für Deine Antwort und sorry für meine arbeitsbedingt späte Reaktion. Aber hier kommen wir tatsächlich zu meinem genauen Problem - ich sehe kein Mikrofon in der Wiedergabe - Tab bei den Einstellungen. Hast du da vielleicht noch eine andere Idee?

 

[Suslik V]

Read headers of the windows on screenshots carefully.
And finally, Please post a log with your issue! Here's how...

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

Thanks for your feedback, you´ll find the Log-File attached.

What do you mean "Read headers of the windows on screenshots carefully. " ?

Unfortunately, I have to say that the problem still persists :( ...

 

[Suslik V]

Your Speakers isn't default device in Windows, so each sound goes to Headphones (the device marked on your screens as default; and loaded by OBS Studio as WASAPI default device - from the log). You cannot use headphones to monitor themselves. Try to make Speakers default device in Windows, thus you'll be able to monitor through headphones your speakers (or in other words - any sound that appear in the OS itself).

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

First off, thank you so much :)

So what I´ve done, is set the speaker as default device. But that doesn´t change anything to be honest.

 

[Suslik V]

And what you had set as the monitoring device?

 

[Suslik V]

Why you need all this stuff with the monitoring? It was designed primary to be able to hear input from the capture devices (OBS Studio by default don't playbacks them - only routes all sounds directly into the stream/file).

 

[MUTANTELEVISION]

And what you had set as the monitoring device?

in OBS: The speakers. Is that wrong?

Why you need all this stuff with the monitoring? It was designed primary to be able to hear input from the capture devices (OBS Studio by default don't playbacks them - only routes all sounds directly into the stream/file).

Well because I want to hear myself while recording :( It would be kinda if I wouldnt because the Headphones are able to surpress outside noises, which is why I badly need to hear myself

 

[koala]

In your screenshot, right-click "Kopfhörer"->Eigenschaften, then tab "Pegel" and you will see a meter for "Mikrofon". This is a Windows function that gives you immediate feedback to your Kopfhörer what the Mikrofon records. If you use this, you don't need to use the monitoring feature of OBS.

On the other hand, it is not necessary to have this kind of feedback.

Much more useful is if you don't monitor at all and make a test recording instead and listen to that recording how you sound. Speak loudly, speak silently, play music, hit the table with your hand, hit the mic with your hand, click violently with your mouse and type keys violently and check how this all is being heard in your recording. And listen to your completed streams. This way you see what noises you should avoid, and how loudly or silently you should speak. While being on your stream, you usually don't have the chance to constantly monitor your voice. If you stream alone, you are actor and director at the same time, so it's difficult to act and and verify the acting at the same time.