Question / Help New internet: What stream settings?

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CritVV

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Hello moderators/admins/users.

So, since yesterday I've gotten new internet. A stable 50 dn / 60 up connection. Just like everyone else, I wanna get the best quality out of my stream settings. Ofcourse I'm limited by twitch's max bitrate of 3500, so what settings would be the best to use for fast motion games? With my i5 3570k @ 4.8 Ghz, I have the ability to choose out of these:

480p@60 FPS with Fast Preset 3500 bitrate/buffer
720p@30 FPS with Faster Preset 3500 bitrate/buffer
720p@45 FPS with Faster Preset 3500 bitrate/buffer
720p@60 FPS with Veryfast Preset 3500 bitrate/buffer
1080p@30 FPS with Veryfast Preset 3500 bitrate/buffer

Keep in mind, that I'm not partnered. Probably FerretBomb will show up, telling me not to cross the 2000 bitrate for non-partners :P

But I care more about quality, than a huge amount of viewers, so I won't lower my bitrate at less than 3000, otherwise I feel I'm not using my internet potential at all.

Since this is more of a poll, I already say sorry might I have placed this thread in the wrong section.

With kind regards,

Critvv or Vincent from Holland
 
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CritVV

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Ooh...and also, I'd like to know if there is much difference between Intel Quicksync and x264 encoder in therms of quality/performance.
 
Videophile

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vbdkv said:
720p@60 FPS with Veryfast Preset 3500 bitrate/buffer. Quicksync is uglier than gpu encoding so that's ew.
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Would not recommend 3500 unless partnered or you have quality options. Most people cannot watch 3500 smoothly.

Due to this, I would recommend 720p@30fps at 2000kbps, this is a good tradeoff between quality and view ability.
 
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CritVV

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LtRoyalShrimp said:
Would not recommend 3500 unless partnered or you have quality options. Most people cannot watch 3500 smoothly.

Due to this, I would recommend 720p@30fps at 2000kbps, this is a good tradeoff between quality and view ability.
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I knew someone was gonna say that. But yeah on twitch, even people like me with a 50/60 connection get lag watching a 3500 bitrate stream without encoding. Twitch is utter garbage and that's why I decided to stream on hitbox where I can stream a beautiful 720p@60 FPS at a bitrate of 4000 without any buffering at all. Furthermore, I can't really see anyone not being able to download a 500 KB/s stream except some Australians/Americans. Maybe 1/10 people won't be able to watch my stream, but I can live with that. I really can't stream at a 2000 bitrate on 720p, it looks very pixelated and blurry when streaming high motion games like CS:GO, battlefield, Watch Dogs, Skyrim (especially with mods), call of duty etc etc. So, hitbox is my solution.

Thanks a lot for your response LtRoyalShrimp ;)
 
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vbdkv

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Personally I stream at 3300 + 96kb audio and so far I've had zero complaints. However I fully agree that Twitch is beyond slow and stuttery at times. 720p at 2000kbps is way below what I expect to see in a stream, it gets all blocky and ugly in most games. However "darker" games with lots of static walls and not much going on will look just fine all the way down to 1400kbps - I streamed Fear 2 at that bitrate in 720p and it looked awesome to my surprise.
 
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CritVV

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vbdkv said:
Personally I stream at 3300 + 96kb audio and so far I've had zero complaints. However I fully agree that Twitch is beyond slow and stuttery at times. 720p at 2000kbps is way below what I expect to see in a stream, it gets all blocky and ugly in most games. However "darker" games with lots of static walls and not much going on will look just fine all the way down to 1400kbps - I streamed Fear 2 at that bitrate in 720p and it looked awesome to my surprise.
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Thanks a lot for your reply vbdkv. I've experienced that aswell. I always wondered why my stream looked pixelated in saturated and bright areas in skyrim, whereas in dark caves it would look beautiful. I always started to think that I changed one magic setting that improved my stream enormously. But since twitch will not allow me to get partnered, and I don't wanna be limited to a 2000 bitrate, I'd rather choose either youtube or hitbox.
 
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dsr07mm

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Earn your partnership with quality content and you will get your option for better quality. Thats most fair thing so far on internet. On youtube you will get partnership even with 10x 15videos of 1 minute duration with garbage content.
 
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CritVV

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dsr07mm said:
Earn your partnership with quality content and you will get your option for better quality. Thats most fair thing so far on internet. On youtube you will get partnership even with 10x 15videos of 1 minute duration with garbage content.
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Even IF my content would be of high quality, and if I'd truly be a good intertainer. A partnership requires 500+ live viewers on every/most of your streams. Which is impossible with this form of competition. Partnership is not an option for me unfortunately.
 
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alpinlol

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uhm depending on what game you play, since you said you are playing fast motion games i guessed something like csgo and to be honest with your i doubt that your cpu performes that good when playing a cpu based engine + encoding 720p60

its absolutly capable of doing it but its probably already getting close to it limits of performance stability.

that said, if it is actually csgo 540p60 looks just as good since the typo is actually quite large in csgo so you might get away with it but other games wont look as good another option might be 720p48 or 720p30

720p30 will probably the sweet spot with 3000bitrate for you
 
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CritVV

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alpinlol said:
uhm depending on what game you play, since you said you are playing fast motion games i guessed something like csgo and to be honest with your i doubt that your cpu performes that good when playing a cpu based engine + encoding 720p60

its absolutly capable of doing it but its probably already getting close to it limits of performance stability.

that said, if it is actually csgo 540p60 looks just as good since the typo is actually quite large in csgo so you might get away with it but other games wont look as good another option might be 720p48 or 720p30

720p30 will probably the sweet spot with 3000bitrate for you
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Thanks a lot for your tips, very useful. As long as I limit my framerate to 150, my cpu usage never goes above 80 percent when recording 720p@60 FPS with Faster preset. I did as you said, I'm now recording 720p@30 FPS at 3000 bitrate and 1500 buffer (just to keep the bitrate more constant) with a Fast preset and everything looks crisp and beautiful and no one complains about any buffering or bad quality.

Thanks again.
 
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