Question / Help New GPU, New OBS problems

Nakauri

Nakauri

New Member
Hi,

I was trying to avoid having to make a post, but I'm stumped now and could use some technical expertise.
I upgraded from an HD 6950 to a GTX 980 last Monday and am having troubles getting OBS to play nice with WoW since.

The game itself runs fine, but not while trying to stream. While trying to stream I get hitching, brief second lock ups, etc. It's playable but extremely frustrating and causes input delay. My ISP is also having problems in my location and claims they need to upgrade the infrastructure, so between that and my new video card I'm having trouble deciphering if there's something I can do.

Here is my latest log after having swapped to test on hitbox instead of twitch, with a bunch of my settings reduced since tinkering:
https://gist.github.com/33a1a2811665a47c7977

Regarding the video card... I did boot into safe mode in order to remove the prior video drivers. I also did it a second time on the NVIDIA drivers I had already installed to try again, along with a program called DDU - display driver uninstaller.

What obvious thing did I miss?
Cheers,
 
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Fishys

New Member
Id just like to say that im having similar problems with my gtx 960 4gb while. well, I actually dont know for sure that its my graphics card, but I suspect it. It happens to me while streaming H1Z1, my FPS randomly drops to like 10-15 fps. Only when streaming. I tried xsplit aswell, same thing happens. Turning my quality down to 720p helped it very slightly, but to no avail. After analyzing it with the obs log analyzer, it said something about how I have a major issue, which is that something is affecting the game capture, like an fps overlay, teamspeak overlay (overwolf) ect. I removed the FPS overlay that I had which was coming from GEforce experience, still happening. Im thinking that maybe my graphics card is inputing some sort of monitoring feature into the game, thats just what I suspect. Also, I diddnt upgrade, this is the only graphics card ive ever had.
 
Nakauri

Nakauri

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I was able to stream flawlessly this evening with Shadowplay. However, I would like to use OBS for its overlays. This also reduces my situation to just OBS. Any insight from the log I posted as to what OBS would be getting issues on? I have heard that PrecisionX can cause issues in some programs. Has there been issues between OBS and PrecisionX in the past?
 
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alpinlol

Active Member
a phew things to try.

the way you set up things right now,

14:40:58: Using Window Capture
14:40:58: Using bitmap image
14:40:58: Using graphics capture
14:40:58: Trying to hook process: Wow-64.exe

you are probably window capturing twitchalerts (if so make sure to get rid of it and use the clr browser plugin)

try disabling aero for testing purposes.

make sure you dont have your own streaming actually running in the background

for the cpu itself, the i5 sandy bridge starts to struggle with everything above 720p30 but at 720p30 the cpu should be absolutly fine with wow
 
Nakauri

Nakauri

New Member
I am windows capturing Gop Gop Goop Goop, a keyboard overlay interface similar to NohBoard. I have issues whether the Windows Capture and bitmap image are included or not. I have tried with Aero disabled - would a log of that instance be useful?
This happens with or without the stream running in the background, but I have been able to run the stream in the background in the past without issue.

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FerretBomb

FerretBomb

Active Member
Generally when testing you want to test for at least 5-10 minutes on each, to let the encode 'settle'.

Make sure Aero is ON. It speeds up Window Captures greatly, and can fix 'hitching' issues.

You're showing a shockingly large number of frame duplications and skips; almost 20% on one test. Something is seriously wrong. Anything over 1% should be watched. Are you watching your CPU load, temperature, and throttling while streaming?

Unless you are recording locally and plan to edit with Sony Vegas, turn CFR off. Twitch needs CBR, not CFR; CFR is mostly just there to make the video files play nice with tantrum-prone video editing software.
 
Nakauri

Nakauri

New Member
Thanks.

I've run another test. This one was 6 minutes. Aero was on and I monitored my CPU/GPU during. CFR is now off, not sure why it was turned on.

Log: https://gist.github.com/c541522b3234b48355c4

For some of this log I was holding still in-game and had no issue. When I began moving the hitching and delays would occur. Where do I find frame duplications and skips in the log file, for future reference? Is that the GPU flush?

My CPU never hit 45C. V core remained at 1.28, no weird fluctuations away from 12V/5V/3.3V .. CPU fan stayed around 700 rpm. Had CPU-Z running with my mobo's monitoring system, it also did not see anything strange. I did notice that every so often the CPU usage of my cores would spike on one core while the others dropped, but they mostly hovered around 40/35/35/50% loads.

Here's the CPU OC if it's relevant. I have not changed this and these are the settings its been at when streaming in the past. The image is from the motherboards overclock controller.
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On the flip side, here is my GPU. It also did not seem to get overly hot, never breaching the 50C.
qwmctlp.png


The above program is EVGA's PrecisionX, and it was lagging when I tried to interact with it during the stream. I may try this again in the morning without PrecisionX on and see if the issue persists, but my video card fans don't turn on until it hits 70C or so without a fan controller. If there is no issue with PrecisionX turned off I may have to download Afterburner and see if that helps.

How did this new log look? I've moved locations to a new, stronger internet location to rule out that and reduce it just to hardware/software, since I was having confirmed network errors in my neighbourhood. This new location should not.
 
Nakauri

Nakauri

New Member
Actually now that I look at that my CPU should be downclocking itself when it's inactive, not idling at 4.0MHz. Maybe something is going on with my CPU.

I have a 5-30% CPU usage currently. The maximum frequency is idling at 95-99%.
Hm.

Closing the keyboard monitor overlay I had above dropped it from maxing at 4.0Ghz back to idling at 1.6Ghz, but after about half a minute it is now bouncing between 4.0 and 1.6.
Closing precision X.... 1.6Ghz and a drop in maximum frequency, but still bouncing between 50-90%.
http://i.imgur.com/I3YF1C1.png

Very odd. It looks like something is no longer playing nice with the keyboard overlay and PrecisionX. Maybe both, or maybe just the latter.

I guess I will grab a drink and test the stream first without precisionX and the overlay. It would make sense if all the problems I've been having since putting in the new graphics card were related to precisionX, as I don't believe I tried to stream without it.
 
Nakauri

Nakauri

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It seems to have been a problem with the latest Nvidia driver, 355.6. I simply installed the latest when I received the new device. I rolled back to a more stable driver, 347.52, and seem to no longer have hitching. Will know for certain tomorrow.

Now just to figure out why my microphone always pops loudly when I activate it...
 
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Osiris

Active Member
You should check if you put the card in the correct pci-e slot, since it appears to only be running at x2 instead of x16.
 
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