Monitoring for live band live streams?

[Dakineazn]

I've done a few live streams for live bands recently and have run into the problem of having a hard time monitoring what it actually sounds like on the stream. I monitor straight from the headphone jack in my Mixer (Mackie ProFxv12) and have found that the sound coming from the actual twitch or YouTube stream does not at all match what I am hearing from my mixer. Alot of the times it sounds very quite and poorly mixed which is not the case for the sound monitored from the mixer. I had the idea of just monitoring the accutal stream rather than the mixer but the trouble with that is being 10 feet away from the band it is hard to mix with the lag and live sounds. Does anyone have and ideas of tips of how they monitor for live bands?

 

[Lawrence_SoCal]

I suspect (from what little I know, audio is my weakest area of expertise) is that mixing for a live audience, won't necessarily (and often isn't) a good mix for a stream. Why, in part (heavy) audio compression and the speakers being used to listen
Once you accept that a unique audio mix most likely required, relatively easy to adjust
The challenge would be if you are making adjustments to live in-person audio mix during performance, and those adjustments conflict with livestream mix, ex making livestream audio clip. But in general, if you are getting that close to the 'edge', you should be able to drive certain adjustments to mixer for both in-person and livestream and be ok..
I do this for House of Worship (liturgical, not the band performance style), so our audio mix is a WHOLE lot simpler. But the concepts are the same
I recommend researching audio optimizations for livestream (things like compression). And part of what you end up doing depends on mixer, and audio interface to streaming PC (ie, is it an analog or digital connection, and you run a DAW on the streaming PC?). If analog, is it same as sent to speakers, or a sub-mix? etc

 

[konsolenritter]

Possibility 1:
If your live-foh-sound coming from the output of your mixer differs to much from a good streaming experience, rethink of using a good pair of stereo-mic'ing at foh place and send this solely into the stream. That way you capture the audience reactions as a bonus.

(Reason: In most cases the foh sound on loud bands and/or small venues is the difference of what is coming direct from stage loud enough (e.g. drums or amp'd guitars) and what needs clearly gain rising (acoustics, keys, voice). Thats why voices aso. are over-exposed on the stream while guitars or over elements will step back.)

So possibility 2: (in a theoretical manner)
Thats the reason why broadcast (or streaming) teams use a second team, sitting on a sound-isolated truck aside of the venue with a complete double of each track for having a completely independent mix (plus mics for the audience reactions, room/ambience and so on.)