Been having problems with unstable bitrate and severe loss of frames when streaming. Did a few 8+ hour streams with little to no issues then things changed and have made it nearly impossible to have a good stream. Initially used recommended settings which said I could handle 1080p60fps at 6000Kbps, started having issues and tried to lower various settings to fix it to no avail, reinstalled OBS and that fixed it for a little while but it started acting up again. Tried running a vpn in the event that my isp was throttling the speeds which they have a habit of doing and that didnt help either. Currently playing and streaming at the same time from my laptop with it plugged into my tv as the primary display. Very frustrating. https://obsproject.com/logs/Zy9Kf2h2ysv8dVDy Attached all the available log files just in case any of them help provide more information. My network speeds should be 800+ down and 35 up with Cox Gigablast. Using their supplied doxis 3.1 modem with and older netgear nighthawk r7000 ac1900 that im plugged directly into with a rosewell usb to ethernet adapter. I dont know what other information to provide, I just wanna get this sorted out so I can have quality streams.
Loss of Frames and Poor Bitrate
- Thread starter EZEILL
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6gb but I imagine that doesnt make that big of a difference. Ill have to call my isp and talk to them since i know the computer itself can handle the settings and the majority of my frame loss is due to the network. Wasnt sure if the logs would show anything more useful or not.
Tomasz Góral
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Use WinMTR to check network issues.
konsolenritter
Active Member
In one of the last logs there is the connection made thru an "ExpressVPN tun driver", a tunneling driver.
If ever possible you should avoid tunneling bandwidth intensive streaming traffic thru such VPNs or something alike.
Proof which twitch servers work best for you and reach them the straightest path you can.
If ever possible you should avoid tunneling bandwidth intensive streaming traffic thru such VPNs or something alike.
Proof which twitch servers work best for you and reach them the straightest path you can.
Ive since cancelled my subscription, tried it out thinking it would fix the issue if my isp was throttling my speeds but it didnt help. I run the bandwidth test and used the recommended settings which said I could do 1080p60fps at 6000kbps but that only lasted a short period and now even after wiping my computer and replacing my modem and router with a Netgear Nighthawk CAX80. This is getting frustrating because I streamed just fine for 8-16 hours with minimal issues and now I cant even stomach streaming long enough to run through the dark souls trilogy like I had planned. For the most part my internet is fine, its only acting poorly when I try to stream then I drop 30-70% of my frames depending on my stream settings.
konsolenritter
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Okay, sorry to hear. Personally i fear you are changing hardware to much or at least to much over short time.
You stream to Twitch then, right? Did you used https://r1ch.net/projects/twitchtest to find the best possible twitch server for your location then? Did you tried to stream to Youtube instead (just an unlisted test, for instance) to see, if the issue goes along?
Not only tunneling software, but vendor-installed addons provided (even well-intentioned) by the manufacturer with names like "Network booster" may have bad influence to your computers network performance instead. Did you made short tests with disabled av and firewall software?
Cause you cancelled your subscription - may you change your local provider? Or can you test with 4G mobile, if available? (Just to proof where the bottleneck sits...)
You stream to Twitch then, right? Did you used https://r1ch.net/projects/twitchtest to find the best possible twitch server for your location then? Did you tried to stream to Youtube instead (just an unlisted test, for instance) to see, if the issue goes along?
Not only tunneling software, but vendor-installed addons provided (even well-intentioned) by the manufacturer with names like "Network booster" may have bad influence to your computers network performance instead. Did you made short tests with disabled av and firewall software?
Cause you cancelled your subscription - may you change your local provider? Or can you test with 4G mobile, if available? (Just to proof where the bottleneck sits...)
No that wasnt something I was aware of, also slight misunderstanding, I cancelled my vpn subscription. Just ran a roughly 4 hour stream with a steady 10% frame loss over the network, then the last maybe 20 minutes or so it went up to 30% and seemed like my laptop was performing worse. Tried watching my computers performance in the task manager and the only thing that was acting poorly was the network fluctuating. Here is that log file though at this point I dont know if there will be any useful info or if anything will change until I can maybe afford to build a better computer. https://obsproject.com/logs/Wmw_ChZYXS7cbJOp Will be going through the guides here on the site later after work and trying to change things up, but Ive also been readying these surface book 2's tend to have heat issues that could be affecting things. Unfortunately the only vent is pointed straight at the monitor. Doesnt seem to matter what settings I use, every time I end up losing frames over the network for whatever reason.
konsolenritter
Active Member
You have alot of streamelements and stats stuff running, especially browser sources fetching. This may lead to a lot of additional network traffic, and the log is full of moaning about these issues. Then you have an U-model cpu (like you know meanwhile).
Did you tried without all that plugin stuff? Disable browser sources to try...?
Did you tried without all that plugin stuff? Disable browser sources to try...?
I hadnt had those when i first started having the problem, the last log was run with a tolerable 10% network frame loss up until maybe the final 20 or so minutes of the stream where it went up to 30% and started impacting the entire computer. Also not sure how the browser sources behave if its just treated as one or duplicates that all run at the same time or only run per source when visible. The streamelements stuff gives me stream stats in the left panel and chat in the right panel then i have the on screen alerts that show when i get follows etc.
Also Im not seeing where my cpu or gpu specs are impacting this, the cpu generally doesnt run much over 20% use by obs and the gpu id assume is functioning as its supposed to and not restricting anything. I had at least 1 8 hour stream with no noticeable issues using the same stream settings.