Question / Help Local Recording Questions

First, I had read a lot of topics and other websites to find a solution and nothing I have found has fixed my issue.

Let's start by giving you my pc specs:

Motherboard: Msi 790fx-gd90
Processor: Amd Phenom II x4 965 Socket am3
Graphics: Ati Radeon Hd 5970 2 core 2gig on board memory
Memory: Gskill RipJaw Gaming Series (8 gig) DDR3 1600
HDD: Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive
Power: Corsair GS 700w

I run a dual monitor

1: Asus VE248Q 24" LED LCD Monitor - 16:9 - 2 ms (Primary)
2: NEC Display Solutions LCD1970GX-BK Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor 400 cd/m2 700:1

Network Specs: ISP: Comcast

Download: 20 mb
Upload: 4.5 mb

(Internet can and always changes from good to bad)
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Short story is the software worked flawlessly before I upped my graphics (Ati Radeon Hd 4850). Then I upped graphics card to play Battlefield 4, which by the way works flawlessly on medium graphics, but now I can't record my gameplay footage for Call of Duty: World at War (2008 made) game.

The setting I ran in obs before changing graphics cards:

Encoding>Video Encoding:

Use CBR: Checked
Quality Balance: 8
Max Bitrate: 5000
Use Custom Buffer: Checked
Buffer Size: 5000

Encoding>Audio Encoding:

Codec: AAC
Bitrate: 128
Format: 48 kHz

Video:

Custom: 1910x1080
Resolution Downscale: 1.50 (720)
Filter: Bilinear
FPS: 30
Disable Aero: Checked

Audio:

I use headphones and blue snowball

Advanced>General:

Use Multithreaded Optimizations: Checked
Process Priority Class: Normal
Scene Buffering Time: 700
Disable encoding while previewing: Unchecked
Allow other modifiers on hotkeys: Checked

>Video

X264 CPU Preset: Very Fast
x264 Encoding Profile: High
Keyframe Interval: 2
Use CFR: Checked
Custom X264 encoder setting: Unchecked
Allow 61-129 FPS entry in video settings: Unchecked

>Audio

Unchecked in all of those boxes

>Network

Have not touched any of the defaults

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After: I have tryed tons of setting including even messing with recommended custom x264 encoder settings: 15-20.

Log of most recent try: Attached File

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I just can't get the game to play properly during gameplay. The rate is just god aweful.


Please help,

Contact:

Email: Twakamagicman24@gmail.com


I love this software just now it has me looking for another product to capture. I am partnered with a network on YouTube and I need to get content captured, which by the way has not been possible for now about 3 weeks.

Please HELP!


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Moderators/Admin : Appoligize in advance if this topic is posted in the wrong thread.
 

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Lain

Forum Admin
Lain
Forum Moderator
Developer
Looks like you have monitor capture in a scene on windows 7. I would recommend removing it, as it's probably causing all your problems.
 
Yea I don't know I could try that. I think that was not a problem at all. If I am mistaken, I have it running before.
 

Krazy

Town drunk
In addition to removing the Monitor Capture source, I would recommend capping your in game FPS either through VSync or some sort of frame limiter like the one EVGA Precision or MSI Afterburner has. It may be that your games and OBS are competing for GPU time and causing performance issues.
 
Upon removing the monitor capture, it improved my issues slightly along with i fiddled around with settings. I have it now to semi playable but still very framy upon high action movement

I looked into msi afterburner, it looks like it only for msi graphics. Also i am still stumped on how this all worked with a lower graphics but cant with a higher one? Please help moderators or dev. I mean i cant record at all.
 
I going to presume my issues is never gonna get solved is it. You got to understand this issue is now pushing two weeks and im losing profit. I might have to consider using another product to capture.
 

Lain

Forum Admin
Lain
Forum Moderator
Developer
You need to be very clear on what specifically the issue is. Framerate issues? BF4? BF4 is known to have these sort of problems, because BF4 eats up all the system resources. I can't really do anything about that for you, especially seeing as your video card is a bit dated. Your CPU isn't quite top level either but it should generally be decent, but for BF4 streaming/recording, you're going to need a better computer.

If you want a "perfect" gaming experience while streaming, the absolute best solution is to use two computers, one a gaming computer, which is just used for gaming only, and another with a capture card that captures the gaming computer and encodes/streams it, that way you don't have to capture/encode on the same computer you're gaming on.

Anyway, I don't really make a "product". I don't sell this program, I give it away for free. Because of that fact, saying "might consider using another product" really isn't very effective threat against me. Now that does not mean that I don't care about your issue, I want everyone to be able to stream/record everything perfectly, but the simple fact is that's impossible, there is so many different types of systems and so many different conditions that it's just impossible to make it work perfectly for everyone. I can only do my best to respond and try to diagnose the problem best I can, and give answers based upon the log file and what you are recording at the time, which we have been trying to do. Please just try to understand it from my perspective a little bit.
 
No I am not trying to stream battlefield 4, and my computer can handle it perfect on medium. The game I am trying to play and record is Call of duty World at war which is made in 2008. I was able to run and play it on highest settings with ati radeon 4850 and same processor. Now I have a a lot better graphics card and it can't play while recording that is the problem. It gets way to framy when I record. I have tried to turn down game settings to lowest setting and also adjusting settings in obs and nothing. I have been dealing with this issue for about 2 weeks now.



As far as going to another product, indeed that was not a threat at all. I just said if I can't find solution I am moving on to another product that can.


I just need help with maybe the right settings.

I am looking for 720p.
 

Lain

Forum Admin
Lain
Forum Moderator
Developer
Well if you want to free up some CPU for other processes or something, then perhaps you might want to try increasing the bitrate and using superfast x264 CPU preset or something. I can't really be entirely sure what to suggest without being on your computer to see exactly what is going on. Sometimes certain sources or too many sources can be a bottleneck for some computers, sometimes it's the encoder, you just have to figure out which it is and work from there to fix the problem.
 

Kirby420

New Member
While I know this isn't the most constructive of replies, I do want to raise a question.

You said you were able to play WaW on a a Phenom II X4 965 and Radeon 4890 with full settings, and now with a very slightly newer 5970, you cannot.

I've got a Phenom II X4 980 clocked at 4.4Ghz, twice your RAM and a 7870.

If I max the settings out in WaW, I get an average of 80-100 FPS at 1920x1080, with dips down into the 60's if I spam my mouse hard. This is because of 100% CPU utilization.

CoD does well on multithreading, it's able to use 100% of my slightly more powerful CPU.

Now, If I were to open up OBS and try to record 720p@60, my FPS would drop into the 40's and become extremely choppy, because OBS is now fighting with WaW for any cycles it can get, which are pretty sparse considering the CPU is pegged to 100% (My GPU is registering at ~65% utilization, regardless of OBS recording or not)

My CPU is only slightly faster than yours at stock clocks, with my overclock it's a full 1000MHz faster and it still gets pegged out, and my video card that's fully 4 years newer and much more efficient than yours gets pulled up to almost 3/4ths it's total capacity.

So I must raise the question, how were you able to record running full graphics on a PC that cannot handle it in the first place? Something does not add up here.
 
I don't know man that is what is questioning me? Yea I was able to run full graphics and record. I have video footage for you if you like to see. Now that I implemented new graphics it is very hard to play and record. Now what is also weird when it is unplayable its still only using top maybe 85% cpu with both
 
Jim said:
You need to be very clear on what specifically the issue is. Framerate issues? BF4? BF4 is known to have these sort of problems, because BF4 eats up all the system resources. I can't really do anything about that for you, especially seeing as your video card is a bit dated. Your CPU isn't quite top level either but it should generally be decent, but for BF4 streaming/recording, you're going to need a better computer.

If you want a "perfect" gaming experience while streaming, the absolute best solution is to use two computers, one a gaming computer, which is just used for gaming only, and another with a capture card that captures the gaming computer and encodes/streams it, that way you don't have to capture/encode on the same computer you're gaming on.

Anyway, I don't really make a "product". I don't sell this program, I give it away for free. Because of that fact, saying "might consider using another product" really isn't very effective threat against me. Now that does not mean that I don't care about your issue, I want everyone to be able to stream/record everything perfectly, but the simple fact is that's impossible, there is so many different types of systems and so many different conditions that it's just impossible to make it work perfectly for everyone. I can only do my best to respond and try to diagnose the problem best I can, and give answers based upon the log file and what you are recording at the time, which we have been trying to do. Please just try to understand it from my perspective a little bit.

You did say tho capturing from another computer can you do that? I think that will fix my problem. I do have a laptop, how would I capture the gaming computer from another
 
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