Question / Help Laggy Stream - Bitrate Question

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phnt0m

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Hello,

If I increase my bitrate to anything past 1500, my latency skyrockets after a few minutes and I can't figure out why. My internet speed is about 30 down and anywhere from 20-30 up. I'm running a i7 2600k, 8 GB DDR3, 2xGTX 470 SLI, windows 7 ultimate x64.

Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Here's my speedtest result:
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Lain

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Lain
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Define latency. Game latency? Stream latency? If you're having problems with your game ping or something then you should use the low latency mode in the latest test versio
 
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phnt0m

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Hi Jim (great first name btw). I get latency in both game and on the stream. My overall connection goes to sh*t. In game, for example, my ping will steadily rise and then bounce between 300-500 ms (when I should be pinging around 20-50). The stream itself just gets very choppy and laggy.

I guess I'll give low latency mode a try, but I still feel that with my speeds I should be able to use a bitrate at 2000+. Back when I only had a 5 Mbps upload I could do a 2000 bitrate on xsplit or RecCentral without issue.

EDIT: I still haven't tried the test build yet, but I was able to stream at 2000 bitrate without lag. I think this is a result of me telling Windows 7 not to reserve 20% of my bandwidth through GPEdit, but I'm not sure. I tried 2000 - it worked. I tried 3000 - it lagged after a few minutes. I tried 2500 - it lagged after a few minutes. I tried 2000 again to be sure - it still worked.

Attached is my log file. What's happening when I try to go above 2000? With 20+ Mbps upload, shouldn't I be able to go considerably higher than 2000?

Code: 
Open Broadcaster Software v0.466a - 32bit (´・ω・｀)
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CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Speed: 3502MHz
Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 3316MB Free
stepping id: 7, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1293352960
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 2952937472
------------------------------------------
Adapter 2
  Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1293484032
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 2952806400
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1280x720
  Output resolution: 1280x720
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
------------------------------------------
    device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 3,
    device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&1b89d1f&0&00e0#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
    chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 15-60.0002, fourCC: 'YV12'

    device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 48000
Using directshow input
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    max bitrate: 2000
    buffer size: 2000
    quality: 8
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1400, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1900
Warning -- MMDeviceAudioSource::GetBuffer: woa woa woa, getting timestamp errors from the audio subsystem.  device = Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
Total frames rendered: 58264, number of frames that lagged: 5522 (9.48%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1280x720
  Output resolution: 1280x720
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
------------------------------------------
    device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 3,
    device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&1b89d1f&0&00e0#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
    chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 15-60.0002, fourCC: 'YV12'

    device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 48000
Using directshow input
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    max bitrate: 3000
    buffer size: 3000
    quality: 9
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1486, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1986
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (399727 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (399727 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (399600 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 1053 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (399600 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 1053 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (398600 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400117 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (397331 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400124 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 543 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400218 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 441 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396695 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (397261 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 3294 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396951 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400051 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (397505 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (397505 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (398760 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396386 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400025 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 2518 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (398975 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (398515 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396957 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396957 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400220 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400006 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4003 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (398751 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396528 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396303 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (397451 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (397819 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (397026 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396680 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400215 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 540 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (396827 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400250 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (400250 / 400384 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
Total frames rendered: 6453, number of frames that lagged: 467 (7.24%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 665 (6.1%), Number of p-frames dropped: 636 (5.8%), Total 1301 (12%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1280x720
  Output resolution: 1280x720
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
------------------------------------------
    device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 3,
    device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&1b89d1f&0&00e0#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
    chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 15-60.0002, fourCC: 'YV12'

    device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 48000
Using directshow input
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    max bitrate: 2500
    buffer size: 2500
    quality: 9
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1400, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1900
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (333942 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 2494 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (333942 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 2494 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (335724 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (335724 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (335131 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (335131 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (334933 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 2218 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (334933 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 2218 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (333804 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (335551 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 373 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (333582 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (334345 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4097 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (333667 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
RTMPPublisher::BufferedSend: Buffer is full (332269 / 335872 bytes), waiting to send 4104 bytes
Total frames rendered: 7851, number of frames that lagged: 881 (11.22%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of b-frames dropped: 147 (1.1%), Number of p-frames dropped: 99 (0.74%), Total 246 (1.8%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1280x720
  Output resolution: 1280x720
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
------------------------------------------
    device: AVerMedia HD Capture C985 Bus 3,
    device id \\?\pci#ven_1af2&dev_a001&subsys_a0011af2&rev_00#4&1b89d1f&0&00e0#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{957bd672-7934-4b55-b81a-3e22b14c679a},
    chosen type: YV12, usingFourCC: true, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 15-60.0002, fourCC: 'YV12'

    device audio info - bits per sample: 16, channels: 2, samples per sec: 48000
Using directshow input
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    max bitrate: 2000
    buffer size: 2000
    quality: 9
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1400, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1900
Total frames rendered: 33101, number of frames that lagged: 1670 (5.05%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 10.401 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 95.3%] [unaccounted: 4.72%]
| scene->Preprocess - [5.46%] [avg time: 0.568 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [89.8%] [avg time: 9.342 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 10.9%] [unaccounted: 78.9%]
| | CopyResource - [0.212%] [avg time: 0.022 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0192%] [avg time: 0.002 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [10.6%] [avg time: 1.099 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0769%] [avg time: 0.008 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
 
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Grimio

Member
Please do try it again. Also, you can try the new test 11 version which works great for many people.
 
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phnt0m

New Member
So speedtest.net and my ISP might be lying to me. Every speed test that I run, I get great results 20+ Mbps, but when I ran ShaperProbe it reported that my actual upload is closer to 2.1 Mbps up. I guess this would explain why everything lags when I use more than 2000...
 
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