Question / Help Lag Ingame

HHybrid

New Member
Today I wanted to try and start streaming RuneScape. (I think a lot of you know what the game is)
Unfortunately this wasn't possible for me due lagging in game, the lag only starts when I start streaming. I'm not sure what settings I should use, I followed the OBS estimator but it didn't really work out as I expected.

Can anyone help me out with this?

PS: I've seen more people showing logs, thought it might be useful as well.

23:31:19: Open Broadcaster Software v0.542b - 32bit (´・ω・`)
23:31:19: -------------------------------
23:31:19: CPU Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2220 @ 2.40GHz
23:31:19: CPU Speed: 2394MHz
23:31:19: Physical Memory: 3069MB Total, 1132MB Free
23:31:19: stepping id: 13, model 15, family 6, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 2, total cores 2
23:31:19: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
23:31:19: Windows Version: 6.0 Build 6002 S
23:31:19: Aero is Enabled
23:31:19: -------------------------------
23:31:19: OBS Modules:
23:31:19: Base Address Module
23:31:19: 010C0000 OBS.exe
23:31:19: 537A0000 OBSApi.dll
23:31:19: 751B0000 DShowPlugin.dll
23:31:19: 75200000 GraphicsCapture.dll
23:31:19: 73320000 NoiseGate.dll
23:31:19: 73210000 PSVPlugin.dll
23:31:19: ------------------------------------------
23:31:19: Adapter 1
23:31:19: Video Adapter: ASUS EAH5570 series
23:31:19: Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1065041920
23:31:19: Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1341222912
23:31:19: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-07, 23:31:19===============================================
23:31:19: Multithreaded optimizations: On
23:31:19: Base resolution: 1680x1050
23:31:19: Output resolution: 1680x1050
23:31:19: ------------------------------------------
23:31:19: Loading up D3D10...
23:31:19: Playback device Default
23:31:19: ------------------------------------------
23:31:19: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
23:31:19: ------------------------------------------
23:31:19: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
23:31:19: ------------------------------------------
23:31:19: Audio Encoding: AAC
23:31:19: bitrate: 160
23:31:20: ------------------------------------------
23:31:20: Video Encoding: x264
23:31:20: fps: 30
23:31:20: width: 1680, height: 1050
23:31:20: preset: veryfast
23:31:20: CBR: yes
23:31:20: CFR: no
23:31:20: max bitrate: 1500
23:31:20: ------------------------------------------
23:31:21: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
23:31:21: Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
23:31:23: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
23:31:23: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
23:35:28: Total frames rendered: 6481, number of frames that lagged: 1354 (20.89%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
23:35:28: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
23:35:28: Number of times waited to send: 9, Waited for a total of 26056 bytes
23:35:28: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
23:35:28: =====Stream End: 2013-08-07, 23:35:28=================================================
00:04:33: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:04:33===============================================
00:04:33: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:04:33: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:04:33: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:04:33: ------------------------------------------
00:04:33: Loading up D3D10...
00:04:33: Playback device Default
00:04:33: ------------------------------------------
00:04:33: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:04:33: ------------------------------------------
00:04:33: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:04:33: ------------------------------------------
00:04:33: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:04:33: bitrate: 160
00:04:33: ------------------------------------------
00:04:33: Video Encoding: x264
00:04:33: fps: 30
00:04:33: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:04:33: preset: veryfast
00:04:33: CBR: yes
00:04:33: CFR: no
00:04:33: max bitrate: 1500
00:04:33: ------------------------------------------
00:04:39: Total frames rendered: 170, number of frames that lagged: 13 (7.65%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:04:39: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:04:39=================================================
00:04:50: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:04:50===============================================
00:04:50: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:04:50: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:04:50: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:04:50: ------------------------------------------
00:04:50: Loading up D3D10...
00:04:50: Playback device Default
00:04:50: ------------------------------------------
00:04:50: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:04:50: ------------------------------------------
00:04:50: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:04:51: ------------------------------------------
00:04:51: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:04:51: bitrate: 160
00:04:51: Using Window Capture
00:04:51: ------------------------------------------
00:04:51: Video Encoding: x264
00:04:51: fps: 30
00:04:51: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:04:51: preset: veryfast
00:04:51: CBR: yes
00:04:51: CFR: no
00:04:51: max bitrate: 1500
00:04:51: ------------------------------------------
00:04:59: Total frames rendered: 222, number of frames that lagged: 73 (32.88%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:05:00: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:05:00=================================================
00:05:23: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:05:23===============================================
00:05:23: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:05:23: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:05:23: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:05:23: ------------------------------------------
00:05:23: Loading up D3D10...
00:05:23: Playback device Default
00:05:23: ------------------------------------------
00:05:23: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:05:23: ------------------------------------------
00:05:23: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:05:23: ------------------------------------------
00:05:23: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:05:23: bitrate: 160
00:05:23: Using Window Capture
00:05:23: ------------------------------------------
00:05:23: Video Encoding: x264
00:05:23: fps: 30
00:05:23: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:05:23: preset: veryfast
00:05:23: CBR: yes
00:05:23: CFR: no
00:05:23: max bitrate: 1500
00:05:23: ------------------------------------------
00:05:28: Total frames rendered: 125, number of frames that lagged: 8 (6.40%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:05:28: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:05:28=================================================
00:05:45: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:05:45===============================================
00:05:45: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:05:45: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:05:45: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:05:45: ------------------------------------------
00:05:45: Loading up D3D10...
00:05:45: Playback device Default
00:05:45: ------------------------------------------
00:05:45: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:05:45: ------------------------------------------
00:05:45: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:05:45: ------------------------------------------
00:05:45: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:05:45: bitrate: 160
00:05:45: Using Window Capture
00:05:45: ------------------------------------------
00:05:45: Video Encoding: x264
00:05:45: fps: 30
00:05:45: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:05:45: preset: veryfast
00:05:45: CBR: yes
00:05:45: CFR: no
00:05:45: max bitrate: 1500
00:05:45: ------------------------------------------
00:06:51: Using text output
00:07:28: Total frames rendered: 2639, number of frames that lagged: 979 (37.10%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:07:28: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:07:28=================================================
00:08:42: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:08:42===============================================
00:08:42: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:08:42: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:08:42: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:08:42: ------------------------------------------
00:08:42: Loading up D3D10...
00:08:42: Playback device Default
00:08:42: ------------------------------------------
00:08:42: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:08:42: ------------------------------------------
00:08:42: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:08:42: ------------------------------------------
00:08:42: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:08:42: bitrate: 160
00:08:42: Using Window Capture
00:08:42: ------------------------------------------
00:08:42: Video Encoding: x264
00:08:42: fps: 30
00:08:42: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:08:42: preset: veryfast
00:08:42: CBR: yes
00:08:42: CFR: no
00:08:42: max bitrate: 1500
00:08:42: ------------------------------------------
00:09:56: Total frames rendered: 1682, number of frames that lagged: 617 (36.68%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:09:56: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:09:56=================================================
00:11:04: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:11:04===============================================
00:11:04: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:11:04: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:11:04: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:11:04: ------------------------------------------
00:11:04: Loading up D3D10...
00:11:04: Playback device Default
00:11:04: ------------------------------------------
00:11:04: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:11:04: ------------------------------------------
00:11:04: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:11:04: ------------------------------------------
00:11:04: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:11:04: bitrate: 160
00:11:04: Using Window Capture
00:11:04: ------------------------------------------
00:11:04: Video Encoding: x264
00:11:04: fps: 30
00:11:04: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:11:04: preset: veryfast
00:11:04: CBR: yes
00:11:04: CFR: no
00:11:04: max bitrate: 1500
00:11:04: ------------------------------------------
00:11:06: Total frames rendered: 66, number of frames that lagged: 17 (25.76%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:11:07: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:11:07=================================================
00:11:50: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:11:50===============================================
00:11:50: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:11:50: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:11:50: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:11:50: ------------------------------------------
00:11:50: Loading up D3D10...
00:11:50: Playback device Default
00:11:50: ------------------------------------------
00:11:50: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:11:50: ------------------------------------------
00:11:50: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:11:50: ------------------------------------------
00:11:50: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:11:50: bitrate: 160
00:11:50: Using Window Capture
00:11:50: ------------------------------------------
00:11:50: Video Encoding: x264
00:11:50: fps: 50
00:11:50: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:11:50: preset: veryfast
00:11:50: CBR: yes
00:11:50: CFR: no
00:11:50: max bitrate: 1500
00:11:50: ------------------------------------------
00:11:59: Total frames rendered: 167, number of frames that lagged: 104 (62.28%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:11:59: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:11:59=================================================
00:12:10: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:12:10===============================================
00:12:10: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:12:10: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:12:10: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:12:10: ------------------------------------------
00:12:10: Loading up D3D10...
00:12:10: Playback device Default
00:12:10: ------------------------------------------
00:12:10: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:12:10: ------------------------------------------
00:12:10: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:12:10: ------------------------------------------
00:12:10: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:12:10: bitrate: 160
00:12:10: Using Window Capture
00:12:11: ------------------------------------------
00:12:11: Video Encoding: x264
00:12:11: fps: 30
00:12:11: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:12:11: preset: veryfast
00:12:11: CBR: yes
00:12:11: CFR: no
00:12:11: max bitrate: 1500
00:12:11: ------------------------------------------
00:12:17: Total frames rendered: 131, number of frames that lagged: 35 (26.72%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:12:17: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:12:17=================================================
00:34:22: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:34:22===============================================
00:34:22: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:34:22: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:34:22: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:34:22: ------------------------------------------
00:34:22: Loading up D3D10...
00:34:22: Playback device Default
00:34:22: ------------------------------------------
00:34:22: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:34:22: ------------------------------------------
00:34:22: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:34:23: ------------------------------------------
00:34:23: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:34:23: bitrate: 160
00:34:23: Using Window Capture
00:34:23: ------------------------------------------
00:34:23: Video Encoding: x264
00:34:23: fps: 30
00:34:23: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:34:23: preset: veryfast
00:34:23: CBR: no
00:34:23: CFR: no
00:34:23: max bitrate: 724
00:34:23: buffer size: 434
00:34:23: quality: 7
00:34:23: ------------------------------------------
00:34:34: Total frames rendered: 234, number of frames that lagged: 79 (33.76%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:34:35: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:34:35=================================================
00:35:19: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:35:19===============================================
00:35:19: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:35:19: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:35:19: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:35:19: ------------------------------------------
00:35:19: Loading up D3D10...
00:35:19: Playback device Default
00:35:19: ------------------------------------------
00:35:19: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:35:19: ------------------------------------------
00:35:19: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:35:19: ------------------------------------------
00:35:19: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:35:19: bitrate: 160
00:35:19: Using Window Capture
00:35:19: ------------------------------------------
00:35:19: Video Encoding: x264
00:35:19: fps: 30
00:35:19: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:35:19: preset: veryfast
00:35:19: CBR: no
00:35:19: CFR: no
00:35:19: max bitrate: 628
00:35:19: buffer size: 376
00:35:19: quality: 7
00:35:19: ------------------------------------------
00:35:41: Total frames rendered: 468, number of frames that lagged: 197 (42.09%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:35:41: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:35:41=================================================
00:35:51: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:35:51===============================================
00:35:51: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:35:51: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:35:51: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:35:51: ------------------------------------------
00:35:51: Loading up D3D10...
00:35:51: Playback device Default
00:35:51: ------------------------------------------
00:35:51: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:35:51: ------------------------------------------
00:35:51: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:35:51: ------------------------------------------
00:35:51: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:35:51: bitrate: 160
00:35:51: Using Window Capture
00:35:52: ------------------------------------------
00:35:52: Video Encoding: x264
00:35:52: fps: 30
00:35:52: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:35:52: preset: veryfast
00:35:52: CBR: no
00:35:52: CFR: no
00:35:52: max bitrate: 628
00:35:52: buffer size: 376
00:35:52: quality: 7
00:35:52: ------------------------------------------
00:36:19: Total frames rendered: 561, number of frames that lagged: 238 (42.42%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:36:19: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:36:19=================================================
00:38:31: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:38:31===============================================
00:38:31: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:38:31: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:38:31: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:38:31: ------------------------------------------
00:38:31: Loading up D3D10...
00:38:31: Playback device Default
00:38:31: ------------------------------------------
00:38:31: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:38:31: ------------------------------------------
00:38:31: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:38:31: ------------------------------------------
00:38:31: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:38:31: bitrate: 160
00:38:31: Using Window Capture
00:38:31: ------------------------------------------
00:38:31: Video Encoding: x264
00:38:31: fps: 30
00:38:31: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:38:31: preset: veryfast
00:38:31: CBR: no
00:38:31: CFR: no
00:38:31: max bitrate: 628
00:38:31: buffer size: 376
00:38:31: quality: 4
00:38:31: ------------------------------------------
00:38:45: Total frames rendered: 327, number of frames that lagged: 115 (35.17%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:38:45: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:38:45=================================================
00:51:01: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 00:51:01===============================================
00:51:01: Multithreaded optimizations: On
00:51:01: Base resolution: 1680x1050
00:51:01: Output resolution: 1680x1050
00:51:01: ------------------------------------------
00:51:01: Loading up D3D10...
00:51:01: Playback device Default
00:51:01: ------------------------------------------
00:51:01: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:51:01: ------------------------------------------
00:51:01: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
00:51:01: ------------------------------------------
00:51:01: Audio Encoding: AAC
00:51:01: bitrate: 192
00:51:01: Using Window Capture
00:51:01: ------------------------------------------
00:51:01: Video Encoding: x264
00:51:01: fps: 30
00:51:01: width: 1680, height: 1050
00:51:01: preset: veryfast
00:51:01: CBR: no
00:51:01: CFR: no
00:51:01: max bitrate: 1590
00:51:01: buffer size: 1590
00:51:01: quality: 4
00:51:01: ------------------------------------------
00:51:51: Total frames rendered: 1284, number of frames that lagged: 248 (19.31%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
00:51:52: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 00:51:52=================================================
01:17:46: =====Stream Start: 2013-08-08, 01:17:46===============================================
01:17:46: Multithreaded optimizations: On
01:17:46: Base resolution: 1680x1050
01:17:46: Output resolution: 1680x1050
01:17:46: ------------------------------------------
01:17:46: Loading up D3D10...
01:17:46: Playback device Default
01:17:46: ------------------------------------------
01:17:46: Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
01:17:46: ------------------------------------------
01:17:46: Using auxilary audio input: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
01:17:46: ------------------------------------------
01:17:46: Audio Encoding: AAC
01:17:46: bitrate: 192
01:17:46: Using Window Capture
01:17:46: ------------------------------------------
01:17:46: Video Encoding: x264
01:17:46: fps: 30
01:17:46: width: 1680, height: 1050
01:17:46: preset: veryfast
01:17:46: CBR: no
01:17:46: CFR: no
01:17:46: max bitrate: 1590
01:17:46: buffer size: 1590
01:17:46: quality: 4
01:17:46: ------------------------------------------
01:17:48: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
01:17:48: Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
01:17:50: SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
01:17:50: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
01:22:19: Total frames rendered: 6922, number of frames that lagged: 1560 (22.54%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
01:22:19: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
01:22:19: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
01:22:19: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
01:22:19: =====Stream End: 2013-08-08, 01:22:19=================================================
01:22:23:
01:22:23: Profiler results:
01:22:23:
01:22:23: ==============================================================
01:22:23: frame - [100%] [avg time: 26.074 ms (cpu time: avg 10.094 ms, total 216810 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 100%] [unaccounted: 0.046%]
01:22:23: | frame preprocessing and rendering - [26.9%] [avg time: 7.002 ms (cpu time: avg 3.188 ms, total 68484.4 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 18.9%] [unaccounted: 7.91%]
01:22:23: | | scene->Preprocess - [18.9%] [avg time: 4.94 ms (cpu time: avg 2.462 ms, total 52899.9 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
01:22:23: | video encoding and uploading - [73.1%] [avg time: 19.06 ms (cpu time: avg 6.901 ms, total 148232 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 70.2%] [unaccounted: 2.86%]
01:22:23: | | flush - [12.9%] [avg time: 3.36 ms (cpu time: avg 0.111 ms, total 2402.42 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
01:22:23: | | CopyResource - [0.786%] [avg time: 0.205 ms (cpu time: avg 0.027 ms, total 592.802 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
01:22:23: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.192%] [avg time: 0.05 ms (cpu time: avg 0.01 ms, total 218.4 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
01:22:23: | | call to encoder - [56.3%] [avg time: 14.674 ms (cpu time: avg 6.699 ms, total 143895 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
01:22:23: | | sending stuff out - [0.0959%] [avg time: 0.025 ms (cpu time: avg 0.021 ms, total 452.401 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
01:22:23: | Convert444Threads - [152%] [avg time: 39.583 ms (cpu time: avg 5.655 ms, total 121478 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
01:22:23: ==============================================================
01:22:23:
 

dodgepong

Administrator
Community Helper
Your CPU is pretty weak for streaming. Try downscaling by at least 2x and possibly changing your x264 preset to superfast.

Also, make sure you enable CBR to make your bit rate usage more stable.
 

HHybrid

New Member
Dodgepong, thank you for the fast respond!

Either way I did everything you suggested and It worked out a little better than it did before. But it still doesn't play as smooth as it would without streaming. Is there anything else I can do to improve the game play?
 

alpinlol

Active Member
too be honest i'd give up streaming with that hardware you wont get any enjoyable result for your viewers
 

Kharay

Member
HHybrid said:
Is there anything else I can do to improve the game play?
Yes, there is -- Accepting the fact that a certain minimum hardware requirement does exist. One has to ask oneself -- "If I have to downscale and sacrifice quality to such an extent as to make the content I am putting out completely unwatchable, why am I doing it?".

Downscaling really hard on top of going with, say, the Ultrafast preset will sacrifice so much quality that it really does end up becoming unwatchable. At which point there really is no more point to the stream and you just end up disappointing yourself.
 

HHybrid

New Member
Ok I get it, so basically I have to buy a new desktop with better conditions.
Bought mine in 08 and it's still pretty fast but yes I understand it might not be enough for streaming.
 

Momentum

Member
Dualcore with 3 gigs of ram is far from "fast" nowadays. Especially today, when 4th gen I5's and i7 are out.

Buying a Haswell based PC now would benefit u the most.... Even with 3rd gen i5 u would do just fine, but Haswell is just a bit more expensive but will provide long term use and u wont have to upgrade for years to come...

Just a fair advice
 

alpinlol

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actually buy 3rd gen(ivy) since its the same architecture and all you get with haswell is a better iGPU.

ohh and ivy is a few bucks cheaper but the 1155 socket is prolly not future proof anymore

whatever buy an 2011 socket and buy the new ivy e i7 4820k (HELL YES ITS A UNLOCKED CPU NOW fuck you 3820 ;D )
 
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