Question / Help It seems I can't stream The Witcher 3 or Dying light without my stream pixelating with a 2 pc setup.

Pareidolia4k

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I've been streaming for many years. I can stream what I want decently 98% of the time. But for the love of god I cannot stream The Witcher 3 nor Dying light without having a pixelfest all over the stream. Dying light is also suffering from a little bit of lag but it's not that bad. My gaming rig has a 9900k and a 2080. My streaming rig got a 6700k and a 980 Ti. My main screen is a 144hz panel on wich I play on 120hz. I also cap my games using NvidiaInspector at 120. Every single other games looks good wether it's Resident Evil 2, Overwatch, Dead Rising, Call of Duty, The evil within ect. I encode with Nvenc New because for some reason, my 6700k doesn't do the job most of the time. I don't get it. These two games are from 3 years ago and I can't stream them properly. Maybe with a 1 pc setup I would understand but with 2 pcs? I stream with VBR (CBR for some reason doesnt work well with some games I play, I feel like VBR is better in some cases especially in dayZ. The image looks clean with no big blocs of pixels) 6500 as minimum bitrate, 7500 as max. My preset is maximum quality, Keyframe interval is 2 ''Look ahead'' is check off. ''Psycho Visual Tuning'' is On. I stream in 1080p 60fps altho I also tried 1600x900 or 1280x720. I even tried streaming the game in 30fps. It doesn't lag or anything, it's just pixaleted and unwatchebale especially for a guy like me who does this full-time. If you guys need anymore info, just ask, I don't think I forgot something but I don't know. Also, I stream using NDI. But even if I stream with my gaming PC that has an 9900k and a 2080 I can't stream these games properly event if I cap my fps to 60. I also tried using a capture card but the setup needed to do this properly with the audio and everything makes me not wanna do it and even then, it wasn't perfect. Could somebody help me?
 

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GrandSpartan

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I have a post on the forum that reads similar to yours. I am using a 9900k for the encoding PC and an 8700k as my gaming PC. I can't stream any games without being pixelated. I am actually using a capture card (Avermedia Live Gamer 4k) vs the NDI that you are using, but with the same results. I have tried every variation of OBS setting that you could think of twice over. I am on youtube though and not twitch, and have been streaming for over 2 years now with no issues. I built the 9900k (5.0 OC) with 64 gigs of ram a little over a week ago, and have not been able to stream successfully since. I am using the same settings I have always used in the past. The stream always looked great with very little pixelization in high motions scenes. I upgraded the capture PC in hopes of getting an even better looking stream, but now am left just trying to get back to where I was before. Under pressure to get something going for last nights stream, I threw my 1080i into the 9900k rig and gamed/streamed from the same rig. Just like you said above, I can't stream any game properly doing that compared to how it looks when splitting the load between two computers. I wish you luck with getting your issue resolved. Feel free to contact me on discord @ GrandSpartan#9811 if you would like to bounce ideas off of each other.
 
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1) You're supposed to use x264 encoding on 2 pc systems, not NVENC, which is why you see so many streaming rigs with a great CPU and low-mid range Graphics card. The quality per bitrate will be better due to x264 efficiency and the ability to run a slower CPU preset;

2) 6500 bitrate is not nearly enough to stream 1080p@60FPS for high motion games with a lot of edges, which is the main reason so many top streamers go for 900p@60FPS. Even then, you still see blocky sequences in particularly fast action sequences;

3) Use CBR, not VBR as that can have an effect on viewer retention, in some cases;

4) Running "Partial" YUV Colour Range instead of "Full" saves some bitrate and helps with image quality a bit, in my testing;

5) Downscaling your webcam to 720p@30FPS will help tremendously with your 6700k not being able to keep up with the workload.
 
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Pareidolia4k

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1) You're supposed to use x264 encoding on 2 pc systems, not NVENC, which is why you see so many streaming rigs with a great CPU and low-mid range Graphics card. The quality per bitrate will be better due to x264 efficiency and the ability to run a slower CPU preset;

2) 6500 bitrate is not nearly enough to stream 1080p@60FPS for high motion games with a lot of edges, which is the main reason so many top streamers go for 900p@60FPS. Even then, you still see blocky sequences in particularly fast action sequences;

3) Use CBR, not VBR as that can have an effect on viewer retention, in some cases;

4) Running "Partial" YUV Colour Range instead of "Full" saves some bitrate and helps with image quality a bit, in my testing;

5) Downscaling your webcam to 720p@30FPS will help tremendously with your 6700k not being able to keep up with the workload.
Thank you very much for your precious advice you helped my stream tremendously. Again, thank you very much!
 

Pareidolia4k

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I have a post on the forum that reads similar to yours. I am using a 9900k for the encoding PC and an 8700k as my gaming PC. I can't stream any games without being pixelated. I am actually using a capture card (Avermedia Live Gamer 4k) vs the NDI that you are using, but with the same results. I have tried every variation of OBS setting that you could think of twice over. I am on youtube though and not twitch, and have been streaming for over 2 years now with no issues. I built the 9900k (5.0 OC) with 64 gigs of ram a little over a week ago, and have not been able to stream successfully since. I am using the same settings I have always used in the past. The stream always looked great with very little pixelization in high motions scenes. I upgraded the capture PC in hopes of getting an even better looking stream, but now am left just trying to get back to where I was before. Under pressure to get something going for last nights stream, I threw my 1080i into the 9900k rig and gamed/streamed from the same rig. Just like you said above, I can't stream any game properly doing that compared to how it looks when splitting the load between two computers. I wish you luck with getting your issue resolved. Feel free to contact me on discord @ GrandSpartan#9811 if you would like to bounce ideas off of each other.
Volfield right below you fixed it for me. I switched to CBR 8000 bitrate on ''faster'' Downscaled my webcam to 720 30FPS instead of 1080p 60 and everything is good now. I need to upgrade my cpu but as of now, it's more than decent. I hope you fix your issues man. Have a good one!
 
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