Independently Switching of PiP from Main Feed (Not Creating N+N Scenes for Multi-Camera Setup)???

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rasamassen

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I work at a church. We have 1 PP input + 5 Cameras (plus a low thirds overlay). 90% of the time we just need to switch between those cameras. Sometimes we want audio on or off. Sometimes we want low thirds on or off.

Occasionally we want to do PiP. Any of the 6 sources might be the full screen image; any of the 6 sources might be the PiP image. To do that, right now we need to create N*N scenes. We'd also like to have a narrow PiP available (essentially a "vertical" setting); that adds another N*N scenes. Is there a simpler way?

Currently the only "simpler" way we can think of is to create 1 scene that has all the sources and then painfully toggle an item visible then the other item invisible (because if you only do 1 and not both, you'll end up toggling visible something overlayed by 5 other things). That's really not great, and we think it'll be confusing to our AV teams. Most of them are not tech-savvy, and we make them only use Multiview, hiding "sources" and "scenes" so they can't mess anything up.

Back in the low-tech days, we had a piece of hardware that you simply clicked the PiP button then selected the camera. Quick switch. Very easy. Independent of the main feed. Anyone could operate it.

Ultimately, what I'm looking for is a way to setup the following and then independently switch each aspect without confusing my AV operators:
Full Screen Feed: PP / Camera 1 / Camera 2 / etc. (all Full Screen Feeds display as "Scenes" in Multiview)
Audio: Off / Source 1 / Source 2 / All Audio On etc.
Low Thirds (overlay): Off / On
PiP: Off / PP / Camera 1 / Camera 2 / etc.
PiP (Narrow): Off / Camera 1 / Camera 2 / etc.

Rather than "scenes" that contain all the sources for those items, is there something that creates "areas" where you setup an area (like the full screen, or the audio, or the PiP) and then specify the various source options in that area? And at any time you can see the currently displayed setting for that "area"?

Is there anything like this at all for OBS? Or any plugin?
 
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AaronD

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Downstream Keyer

This plugin adds a Downstream Keyer dock to OBS studio.
obsproject.com obsproject.com
I've thought about using that to overlay our other computer on top of the cameras, instead of having a whole 'nother set of scenes for that option. (same problem as what you described, but only duplicating the cameras, not N*N) But I haven't really seen a need to. Our 3 cameras and 1 computer feed to show or hide, gives 6 scenes, which is easily manageable.

Most of the time, the other computer does its own lower thirds just fine. NDI with transparency from a different app. So we just have a full screen overlay of that computer over each camera, and it simply sends transparency where it shouldn't be blocked.
 
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rasamassen

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AaronD said:

Downstream Keyer

This plugin adds a Downstream Keyer dock to OBS studio.
obsproject.com obsproject.com
I've thought about using that to overlay our other computer on top of the cameras, instead of having a whole 'nother set of scenes for that option. (same problem as what you described, but only duplicating the cameras, not N*N) But I haven't really seen a need to. Our 3 cameras and 1 computer feed to show or hide, gives 6 scenes, which is easily manageable.

Most of the time, the other computer does its own lower thirds just fine. NDI with transparency from a different app. So we just have a full screen overlay of that computer over each camera, and it simply sends transparency where it shouldn't be blocked.
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Thank you AaronD! I actually just found Donwstream Keyer on my own, and this sounds like it does exactly what I need. Not as elegantly as Wirecast, but hopefully good enough.
 
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