Question / Help Inconsistent viewer experience

Sverigevader

New Member
I've been trying for the past few days to get my stream in order and I believe now that I've succeeded.

I can stream and at the same time watch the stream on my laptop next to me with no problem. One of my friends watched it as well and had no problem. Yet one person still cannot seem to watch my stream without problems. He claims that there are massive lag spikes and that it sometimes looks like a slideshow of pictures. Meanwhile he can watch other people stream with a similar or higher quality and bitrate. During this run he loaded up TLO's and Desrow's streams at the same times and had no issues.

Yesterday I tried a bunch of settings to see if he could watch it and found that when I go above 2000 kb/s bitrate he gets spikes and lag on my stream. Yet he can immediately switch to another stream that is running at 3000 kb/s with no problems.

Does anyone have any idea as to why this would occur?

Log file from latest stream:
Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 32bit (´・ω・`)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Speed: 3400MHz
Physical Memory: 4095MB Total, 4095MB Free
stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={1680, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 3201495040
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1093406720
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using bitmap image
Using graphics capture
Using Monitor Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.2
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 60
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 3000
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 2417, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 2917
Total frames rendered: 71027, number of frames that lagged: 18124 (25.52%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:292 Avg QP:18.84 size:160421
x264: frame P:21051 Avg QP:18.48 size: 13971
x264: frame B:49632 Avg QP:21.00 size: 2711
x264: consecutive B-frames: 2.4% 7.7% 15.9% 74.0%
x264: mb I I16..4: 20.9% 4.8% 74.3%
x264: mb P I16..4: 0.8% 0.5% 0.9% P16..4: 19.6% 3.8% 3.7% 0.0% 0.0% skip:70.5%
x264: mb B I16..4: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 3.1% 1.8% 0.6% direct: 2.8% skip:91.7% L0:25.9% L1:51.1% BI:23.0%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:16.1% inter:14.9%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 75.4% 54.1% 42.4% inter: 6.2% 3.6% 1.9%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 38% 34% 24% 4%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 9% 21% 31% 4% 10% 4% 8% 4% 9%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 14% 20% 18% 9% 11% 6% 9% 5% 8%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 56% 26% 14% 4%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.1% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:2999.86
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 13.916 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 94.4%] [unaccounted: 5.58%]
| scene->Preprocess - [65.1%] [avg time: 9.065 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [29.3%] [avg time: 4.075 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 6.52%] [unaccounted: 22.8%]
| | CopyResource - [1.22%] [avg time: 0.17 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0144%] [avg time: 0.002 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [5.2%] [avg time: 0.724 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0862%] [avg time: 0.012 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
It should be noted that my CPU is overclocked to 4.4GHz and that while streaming and playing SC2 I observed around a 50% load across all cores. All cores were utilized equally it seemed. None was higher than 60%

Here is a link to the VOD of the 30 min stream I just did.
 

Grimio

Member
You are getting a lot of lagged frames, possibly a result of multiple active capture sources in the same scene. I second hilalpro's recommendation.
 

Sverigevader

New Member
I wasn't using game capture that time actually. I just went with Fullscreen(Windowed) in SC2 and with the regular desktop capture in OBS.

Are you saying that the situation may be remedied if I get two scenes, one for desktop, and one with game capture?`

Gonna test the new build now.
 

hilalpro

Member
No it should'nt get remedied by simply doing that but since you're aiming for a 60 fps stream the last thing you want is lagged frames so take care of that first.
TLO is running half your bitrate and it's variable at 5 quality which means that he's using less than 1500 bitrate most of the time playing sc2.
 

Sverigevader

New Member
Ok I tried using two scenes and game capture. I have three logs with a bunch of different settings. Mostly bitrate changes but me and my friend tried from the absolute ground up. Starting at 350p@30 fps with like 500 bitrate and I went all the way up to 4000 bitrate. I only got a high frame lag % at one of the settings and it wasn't even the highest one. Although I probably could have run each setting for a bit longer to keep it consistent.

When I stream at 1250 kb/s, 700p, 60fps, my friend has no problem watching my stream, but when I go above say to 1500, he gets spikes. I tried the same settings but with a 4000 kb/s bitrate and I could watch it on my laptop next to me no problem. He can watch Polt's stream which I'm sure runs at higher than 1250 kb/s.

I'm very confused because if my hardware is more than sufficient, and the VODs run fine, the problem can't be with me right?

Log1: Bitrates: 2500, 1500@59, 1500@48, 1500@30
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Open Broadcaster Software v0.48.014b (test build) - 64bit ( ^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Speed: 3400MHz
Physical Memory: 8139MB Total, 4651MB Free
stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={1680, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 3201495040
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3998748672
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 22:44:27===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 2500
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
New Scene
Using Monitor Capture
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
New Scene
Using graphics capture
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 33970, number of frames that lagged: 576 (1.70%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 316 (0.93%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 22:54:07=================================================
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=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 22:54:25===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Monitor Capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1500
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
New Scene
Using graphics capture
SharedTexCapture hooked
------------------------------------------
Total frames rendered: 6717, number of frames that lagged: 32 (0.48%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 13 (0.19%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 22:56:20=================================================
------------------------------------------
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 22:56:28===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 48
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1500
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 3256, number of frames that lagged: 22 (0.68%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 7 (0.21%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 22:57:36=================================================
------------------------------------------
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 22:57:46===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 30
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1500
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
------------------------------------------
Total frames rendered: 4220, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:00:07=================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.692 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 84.5%] [unaccounted: 15.5%]
| scene->Preprocess - [12.2%] [avg time: 0.206 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [72.3%] [avg time: 1.223 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 45.2%] [unaccounted: 27.1%]
| | CopyResource - [0.355%] [avg time: 0.006 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.118%] [avg time: 0.002 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [43.7%] [avg time: 0.739 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| | sending stuff out - [1%] [avg time: 0.017 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
==============================================================
Log2: Bitrates: 1500, 500, 2500, 1000
Open Broadcaster Software v0.48.014b (test build) - 64bit ( ^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Speed: 3400MHz
Physical Memory: 8139MB Total, 4615MB Free
stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={1680, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 3201495040
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3998748672
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:00:17===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 30
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1500
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 22, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:00:18=================================================
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:00:53===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1500
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Total frames rendered: 13610, number of frames that lagged: 58 (0.43%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 39 (0.29%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:04:45=================================================
------------------------------------------
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:05:02===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 560x350
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 30
width: 560, height: 350
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 500
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 2334, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:06:20=================================================
------------------------------------------
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:06:27===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 560x350
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 30
width: 560, height: 350
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 2500
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 3119, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:08:11=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:08:17===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 560x350
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Monitor Capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 30
width: 560, height: 350
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1000
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 3863, number of frames that lagged: 42 (1.09%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 13 (0.34%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:10:26=================================================
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:10:41===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Monitor Capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 60
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 750
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 536, number of frames that lagged: 18 (3.36%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 2 (0.37%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:10:50=================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.826 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 87%] [unaccounted: 13%]
| scene->Preprocess - [63.9%] [avg time: 1.807 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [23.1%] [avg time: 0.652 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 19.6%] [unaccounted: 3.47%]
| | CopyResource - [0.212%] [avg time: 0.006 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.106%] [avg time: 0.003 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [18.7%] [avg time: 0.528 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.602%] [avg time: 0.017 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================
Log3: Bitrates: 750, 1000, 1250, 1500, 4000, 3000, 2000
Open Broadcaster Software v0.48.014b (test build) - 64bit ( ^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Speed: 3400MHz
Physical Memory: 8139MB Total, 4613MB Free
stepping id: 9, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={1680, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
monitor 2: pos={0, 0}, size={1680, 1050}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 3201495040
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3998748672
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:11:02===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 60
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 750
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 23, number of frames that lagged: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 0 (0.00%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:11:03=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:11:03===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 60
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 750
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 11052, number of frames that lagged: 82 (0.74%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 202 (1.83%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:14:10=================================================
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------------------------------------------
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=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:14:37===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Monitor Capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1000
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
New Scene
Using graphics capture
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 6250, number of frames that lagged: 2103 (33.65%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 907 (14.51%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:16:39=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:16:45===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1250
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 8524, number of frames that lagged: 91 (1.07%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 77 (0.90%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:19:10=================================================
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=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:19:22===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Monitor Capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1500
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
New Scene
Using graphics capture
SharedTexCapture hooked
Total frames rendered: 7790, number of frames that lagged: 406 (5.21%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 162 (2.08%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:21:36=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:21:58===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 4000
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 11457, number of frames that lagged: 177 (1.54%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 97 (0.85%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
librtmp error: WriteN, RTMP send error 10035 (79 bytes)
librtmp error: WriteN, RTMP send error 10038 (42 bytes)
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:25:14=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:25:22===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 3000
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 10443, number of frames that lagged: 79 (0.76%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 65 (0.62%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:28:20=================================================
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-12, 23:28:25===============================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 1680x1050
Output resolution: 1120x700
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 59
width: 1120, height: 700
preset: veryfast
CBR: yes
CFR: no
max bitrate: 2000
------------------------------------------
SharedTexCapture hooked
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 43137, number of frames that lagged: 52 (0.12%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
Total duplicated frames: 113 (0.26%)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-12, 23:40:37=================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 2.391 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 83%] [unaccounted: 17%]
| scene->Preprocess - [39.6%] [avg time: 0.947 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [43.4%] [avg time: 1.038 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 34.3%] [unaccounted: 9.12%]
| | CopyResource - [0.293%] [avg time: 0.007 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.125%] [avg time: 0.003 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [32.8%] [avg time: 0.785 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| | sending stuff out - [1.05%] [avg time: 0.025 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
==============================================================
 

Grimio

Member
I have no proof but I assume twitch is favoring streams with a lot of viewers and doesn't allocate a lot of resources for lesser known streams.
 

hilalpro

Member
sounds like a load balancing issue. try streaming to the closest server to him or a different server if it's already close.
 

Sverigevader

New Member
Grimio said:
I have no proof but I assume twitch is favoring streams with a lot of viewers and doesn't allocate a lot of resources for lesser known streams.

I thought of that as well, but both of us watched a stream with 15 followers and 3 viewers. A stream that was running at 720p@59 fps and 3000 kb/s. So I don't think they do that.

hilalpro said:
sounds like a load balancing issue. try streaming to the closest server to him or a different server if it's already close.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to try. We both live in Sweden, 250ish km apart. I've been using the Amsterdam server. I'll try UK.
 
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