Question / Help I7 4790k or wait for Haswell-E ..that is the question ..

[Crazycanukk]

I currently play BF4, Elder Scrolls Online (ESO) , Swtor , Metro Last Light and Looking for a CPU upgrade that will allow me to Stream to Twitch at 720p 60 fps or even 900p at 30-60fps possibly. I am not looking for 1080p at all currently

I am using a 2 pc setup right now for gaming/streaming which works very well but have other plans for the second streaming PC + its almost currently 1000W of Electricity to run both pc's and my home office gets very warm. So i am hoping for a single PC solution. My current gaming system has a 3570k @4.2 , 16 gigs ram and a GTX780 (the 3570k is useless IMO for streaming even 720p at 60 and gaming and causes too many issues ..trust me i have tried. The lack of hyperthreading is a killer for streaming and gaming without much sacrifice needed).

My streaming pc is using an I7 970 6 core cpu and a aver media HD cap card.


Wondering if the "new" i7 4790 would do the trick to play the above games on at very high settings AND process the stream at the same time at the above mentioned resolutions and fps rates..or should i wait for the Hexacore CPU's in the fall. I know the hexacore CPU's will be more then enough...but if i dont have to spend the extra 200-300 dollars on the cpu i won't. I will reuse the capture card in the new pc to capture the game for the CPU to encode. I have tried the Intel quicksync and TBH the quality is not there..x264 is far superior..and same with Nvidia GPU doing the encoding..the quality just isnt what i like.

This is the quality of stream i get right now..and this is the quality i would like to keep at minimum. http://www.twitch.tv/crazycanukk/b/549406635

OR(its an idea but 1 i am trying to avoid if i can)

Second Idea.. upgrade Gaming pc to a 3770k and use that for stream processing and pull the gpu out of it using my cap card and OBS then upgrade to a 4790k for my gaming rig. How good would a 3770k be at processing the stream. It does score 9,664 on passmark.I don;t think the 3570k would be able to process the stream very well as it comes in ever lower then my old i7 970 at 7,100 passmark





i will be reusing my GTX780 into the new build and planning on 16 gigs ram.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[Boildown]

As long as you're not going SLI in the future, then I would go with the Hexacore / Haswell - E. That sounds like a less expensive solution than 2 PCs and a capture card for sure.

The 4790k is just a higher clocked 4770k. Nothing special about it, and its even a subpar overclocker compared to delidding a 4770k from the reviews I've read.

The other solution would be to re-purpose your 3570k for your stream box and then get a 4790 (or 4770) for your game box (or vice versa), and go with the capture card / 2 PC solution. As you say, this will cost more in electricity, buying parts for two complete computers, etc. But your gaming is completely isolated from the CPU/GPU usage of your streaming, and you can do it right now, instead of waiting for Haswell-E. (There are hexacores available now, but on the old technology, I'd advise against them). If you do this, think carefully about which capture card you get, and try out the no capture card lan streaming solution before you buy.

 

[alpinlol]

well the main point of the 4790k was the ihs tc which got negated with the refresh also the base clock is way higher so theres no real need to oc any higher but its capable of a few 100mhz more but in the end its just a refreshed haswell core so not much to expect.

haswell e got an entry cpu with 6 cores but its actually going to be priced higher compared to the current 2011 entry core 4820k

in the end everything above ivy e should be fine with 720p60 and bf4 ultra and bf4 is probably the most demanding game since metro lastlight is quite a cpu killer and doesnt really count imho


im able to stream 720p60 bf4 with a mixture of high and ultra settings but im not using aa because i dont see the point in it anyway as an fps gamer to suffer performance for a few more fake pixels, (my machine is a i7 2700k@4,5 8gb dd3 and a gtx 770) but streaming bf4 sometimes gets my cpu into the 98% mark which really rare but it happens usually around ~80+%