Question / Help I Would Like Some Help regarding Audio

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MazderVerhal

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Okay, I am a new user to OBS and I am not terribly computer literate so please allow me to make that clear first off that assisting em may be slightly slow going.

Now, onto the problem at hand.
I am trying to get into recording gameplay with a friend, as about everyone else is these days, but I am encountering a bit of a problem.
I only use a USB headset for my sound, a wireless Logitech g930 set to be precise.
Now currently my headset is the default devie on my computer in terms of both audio output and recording. My Skype, Teamspeak and Steam chat are all linked through to this headset.
As such I am finding it difficult to separate my in game audio from general desktop audio as it's all running through the same device.

I don't have any other speakers (And I would frankly prefer to keep it that way as my current living situation deems it necessary to have no large amounts of noise being played through. Basically my walls are paper thin and my flatmates don't want to hear either my voice comms or my game audio if it can be helped.

So basically I am asking if there is a way to separate my Game Audio and my VOIP comms when using one headset only?
I have tried the Realtek solution but that requires a second set of speakers.

If anyone has a solution that may help I'd be appreciative to hear more about it.
 
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Lewcas

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Search up va cables (think thats what it's called) and voice meeter. All programes are free to use. It can be a little pain to set up but you can find videos of it on youtube. I believe If you use obs-mp it has options to have up to 4 audio channels which would help when using virtual cables. Thats what I did but i'm in no way an expert. Good luck :)

Edit: link to virtual audio cable http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/

On my phone at the moment so i'm limited on information!
 
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MazderVerhal

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Lewcas said:
Search up va cables (think thats what it's called) and voice meeter. All programes are free to use. It can be a little pain to set up but you can find videos of it on youtube. I believe If you use obs-mp it has options to have up to 4 audio channels which would help when using virtual cables. Thats what I did but i'm in no way an expert. Good luck :)

Edit: link to virtual audio cable http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/

On my phone at the moment so i'm limited on information!
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Firstly thanks for replying so soon. I was honestly thinking I wouldn't be seen until tomorrow if at all. :D

Now this program you've linked is completely free with no new additional hardware required?
If so do you know of any tutorials on the usage of the software?
Have you had experience with it before?
I can only guess how the software works but if I were to hazard a guess it works like a digital audio mixer?
Instead of buying an actual physical mixer and having to program in the sources needed you instead program them in digitally and it sources those programs/sources ONLY so you can play music or whatever through the same audio device driver but it only picks up, say game audio if you're running both game and music sounds through the same channel?

Also is the program above board and risk free (viruses, etc.)?
It's not a matter of not trusting your advice, I am just very diligent about installing new programs.
Also sorry if I am asking too many questions.
 
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Lewcas

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VB-Audio was the one! Completely free as I'm using it at the moment, and as far as I'm aware no additional hardware is needed. Here's 2 tutorials I've used that seemed to work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt9HF-9nYak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjOk-2RgKjs

Indeed I have, and as a beginner still I can find it somewhat awkward to get used to but once you have got it set up you'll get the feel for it when you're running seperate audio and seeing the sound levels going up and down :)

Indeed it works like a digital audio mixer to some degree, but you can choose what inputs and outputs you want it to record, and you can switch them around as and when you like.

As I said I'm still quite new to this stuff and I'd be lying if I said that I don'tknow how to approach this question, but through following the tutorials, if you where to be speaking to someone on skype and playing a game you can make this record your voice, skype and the game seperately. If you where using this for local recordings you'll see 3 different sound files when dragging it into video editing software. (I hope that made sence)

Seems risk free to me, I didn't get any pop up's from my antivirus or anything!

Don't worry about it dude, I just hope that I can help, sucks when you're getting started with this stuff, I still am haha!
 
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MazderVerhal

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FerretBomb said:
VAC (Virtual Audio Cable, paid software)
VB-Audio (a free alternative to VAC)
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Ah, okay, thanks FerretBomb.
I am guessing the quality is slightly lower in VB-Audio, probably no noticeable to the layman but able to be heard by audiophiles.

Lewcas said:
VB-Audio was the one! Completely free as I'm using it at the moment, and as far as I'm aware no additional hardware is needed. Here's 2 tutorials I've used that seemed to work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt9HF-9nYak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjOk-2RgKjs

Indeed I have, and as a beginner still I can find it somewhat awkward to get used to but once you have got it set up you'll get the feel for it when you're running seperate audio and seeing the sound levels going up and down :)

Indeed it works like a digital audio mixer to some degree, but you can choose what inputs and outputs you want it to record, and you can switch them around as and when you like.

As I said I'm still quite new to this stuff and I'd be lying if I said that I don'tknow how to approach this question, but through following the tutorials, if you where to be speaking to someone on skype and playing a game you can make this record your voice, skype and the game seperately. If you where using this for local recordings you'll see 3 different sound files when dragging it into video editing software. (I hope that made sence)

Seems risk free to me, I didn't get any pop up's from my antivirus or anything!

Don't worry about it dude, I just hope that I can help, sucks when you're getting started with this stuff, I still am haha!
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Ah, cool.
I have had a run through the first tutorial and it seems pretty darn simple.
I am just wondering if I can set up multiple configurations/cable types so I can have one that records music if I am offline my VOIP's and one for recording the VOIP's for example.
Right now it seems simple enough to set up a simple games recording system with this. The hard part would be if there are any let's plays to do with others I'd need to teach them this stuff. :D
 
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MazderVerhal

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Well I have had a play around for the past few hours and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the audio tracks to all be recorded or able to be head in an mp4 file as I don't have quicktime to do .mov.
This tool is pretty epic but so fr all ti seems to do is garauntee me being able to omit an audio source for a recording, instead of picking them both up to be edited.

I guess I am back to square one.
 
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Lewcas

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Are you using OBS or OBS MP? OBS MP allows you to record the multiple audio tracks and it saves on the mp4 file so when you drag it to recording software it will have 4 different audio tracks. is this what you're looking for?
 
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MazderVerhal

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Lewcas said:
Are you using OBS or OBS MP? OBS MP allows you to record the multiple audio tracks and it saves on the mp4 file so when you drag it to recording software it will have 4 different audio tracks. is this what you're looking for?
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I am using OBS MP.
But when I record in MP4 it has only one audio track for some reason, despite me setting the audio tracks to a separate one each.
I am using Premiere Pro CS6 as an editing program.
 
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Osiris

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Use the latest version of Premiere, that one works with multiple audio tracks i believe.
Also moving this topic to the multiplatform forums
 
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MazderVerhal

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Osiris said:
Use the latest version of Premiere, that one works with multiple audio tracks i believe.
Also moving this topic to the multiplatform forums
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Ah, sadly that I can not do.
My acquisition of Premire was as of many students internationally.
A cracked copy makes the rounds, so I am in the market for a decent free video editor as well and currently searching for one.
This is currently just a test and I have no plans of making any monetised content anyway.
 
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DoAGoldeneye

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If you don't mind a steep learning curve you can check out Lightworks. It's free if you don't mind being limited to 1280x720.
For a non-free alternative, but a LOT more user friendly, there's Sony Movie Studio. It's 75€.
Sony Movie Suite contains a lot of extra software and samples and costs 130€.

I personally started out w Lightworks and switched to Sony Movie Suite.
Big upside to Movie Studio is that there are a TON of tutorials for it's bigger brother Sony Vegas.
 
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MazderVerhal

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DoAGoldeneye said:
If you don't mind a steep learning curve you can check out Lightworks. It's free if you don't mind being limited to 1280x720.
For a non-free alternative, but a LOT more user friendly, there's Sony Movie Studio. It's 75€.
Sony Movie Suite contains a lot of extra software and samples and costs 130€.

I personally started out w Lightworks and switched to Sony Movie Suite.
Big upside to Movie Studio is that there are a TON of tutorials for it's bigger brother Sony Vegas.
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I was looking at Lightworks and it seemed to be a decent free version while I save up the cash for Sony Vegas Pro.
The only downside is I don't know the file types it uses as I think it's limited to AVI and MOV files, which might put me back at square one if it does the same thing as my current Premier. As in it can bring in MOV files but can't access all the tracks to edit them.
 
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DoAGoldeneye

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Lightworks handles MP4 just fine. Last time I used it (about a year ago) it was acting weird with importing files with multiple audio tracks (I believe it only imports the first one)..

Otherwise a weird but great product.

Once you switch over to Sony it'll be a culture shock all over again though :p
 
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MazderVerhal

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DoAGoldeneye said:
Lightworks handles MP4 just fine. Last time I used it (about a year ago) it was acting weird with importing files with multiple audio tracks (I believe it only imports the first one)..

Otherwise a weird but great product.

Once you switch over to Sony it'll be a culture shock all over again though :p
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Yeah, I can imagine.

I hope to be able to purchase a copy of Sony Vegas Pro by the year's end though.

I mean i know I'll be a casual user, but with enough tools and the peace of mind of being compatible with OBS MP will really help in the long run.
Then I'd just have to learn how to be funny. :D
 
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MazderVerhal

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DoAGoldeneye said:
You're well underway already !
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Why thank you.

If I have any other questions regarding OBS MP I shall return.
Most likely to determine how the separate audio channels actually work.
All the video tutorials seem to confuse me as they merge the voice over audio to the video. Which I do not want.
 
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Valcry

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Sorry, I tried it yesterday evening and it works like a charm.

My MKV/MP4 has now separate tracks for Gameaudio and for the microphone. Together witch VB-Cable I was able to have a third track with just teamspeak only in my local record.

I guess you might have forgot the very hidden settings on the "main Dialog". Der is a cog-symbol near the volume slider.

My Settings:

Speaker at Line 1 and 3
Microphone at Line 2 and 3


Recording Line 1 and 2
Streaming Line 3
 
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