Question / Help How to get crisper quality?

Hi so im streaming on obs 3200 bit and buffer 7 quality 60 fps. the quality is alrite but i would like it to be cripser. any ways i can do this?
 

Krazy

Town drunk
What resolution? What game? What are your system specs?

Posting a log file will give all relevant information. Instructions on how to do so are stickied at the top of every forum section.
 
Code:
Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 64bit ( ^ω^)
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CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600S CPU @ 2.80GHz
CPU Speed: 2793MHz
Physical Memory:  8174MB Total, 6311MB Free
stepping id: 7, model 10, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
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Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti  
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1025966080
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 3220779008
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Blue Snowflake)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using Monitor Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.2
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3200
    buffer size: 3200
    quality: 7
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  New Scene
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    device: Logitech HD Webcam C615,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_082c&mi_02#7&1495f20b&0&0002#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using Monitor Capture
Total frames rendered: 6051, number of frames that lagged: 7 (0.12%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
x264: frame I:25    Avg QP:23.26  size: 69137
x264: frame P:1543  Avg QP:31.13  size:   596
x264: frame B:4426  Avg QP:35.63  size:    53
x264: consecutive B-frames:  1.4%  0.1%  0.5% 98.0%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 34.0% 37.5% 28.6%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  0.4%  0.1%  0.1%  P16..4:  1.0%  0.3%  0.2%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:97.9%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  0.1%  0.0%  0.0%  direct: 0.0%  skip:99.8%  L0:46.7% L1:49.3% BI: 4.0%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:29.9% inter:19.8%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 53.4% 19.2% 12.4% inter: 0.1% 0.0% 0.0%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 33% 63%  2%  1%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu:  7%  9% 78%  1%  1%  1%  1%  1%  2%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 23% 37% 14%  3%  4%  4%  5%  4%  6%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 70% 22%  7%  1%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.0% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:229.91
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Blue Snowflake)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
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    device: Logitech HD Webcam C615,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_082c&mi_02#7&1495f20b&0&0002#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using Monitor Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 4.2
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3200
    buffer size: 3200
    quality: 7
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Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1408, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1908
Total frames rendered: 4284, number of frames that lagged: 1013 (23.65%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:21    Avg QP:32.36  size: 62654
x264: frame P:2144  Avg QP:33.20  size:  9210
x264: frame B:2062  Avg QP:32.96  size:  1292
x264: consecutive B-frames: 24.8% 28.4%  5.3% 41.4%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 43.9% 40.3% 15.8%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  9.5%  7.1%  0.3%  P16..4: 11.9%  3.4%  1.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:66.8%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.7%  0.3%  0.0%  B16..8:  4.5%  0.8%  0.0%  direct: 0.3%  skip:93.4%  L0:42.2% L1:54.7% BI: 3.0%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:41.5% inter:32.2%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 21.2% 9.2% 0.9% inter: 1.6% 0.7% 0.0%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 45% 31% 17%  7%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 15% 19% 47%  3%  3%  3%  4%  2%  4%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 26% 26% 21%  4%  4%  4%  6%  3%  5%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 83%  9%  7%  0%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.9% UV:0.5%
x264: kb/s:2434.64
=====Stream End=======================================================================
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
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Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
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Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Blue Snowflake)
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Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
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    device: Logitech HD Webcam C615,
    device id \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_082c&mi_02#7&1495f20b&0&0002#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bbefb6c7-2fc4-4139-bb8b-a58bba724083},
    chosen type: RGB24, usingFourCC: false, res: 1280x720 - 1280x720, fps: 5-30, fourCC: 00000000

Using directshow input
Using Window Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
x264: profile High, level 3.2
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Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3200
    buffer size: 3200
    quality: 7
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Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-lax.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1403, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 1903
Total frames rendered: 7817, number of frames that lagged: 26 (0.33%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:36    Avg QP:24.74  size: 39592
x264: frame P:3233  Avg QP:28.94  size:  6060
x264: frame B:4491  Avg QP:30.47  size:  1099
x264: consecutive B-frames: 13.1% 24.6% 13.5% 48.7%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 39.9% 34.1% 26.0%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  9.9%  5.4%  0.5%  P16..4: 18.6%  5.9%  1.7%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:57.9%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  1.0%  0.3%  0.0%  B16..8:  8.3%  1.6%  0.0%  direct: 1.0%  skip:87.8%  L0:42.6% L1:54.2% BI: 3.2%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:32.9% inter:21.6%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 26.4% 20.7% 5.8% inter: 2.2% 1.8% 0.1%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 39% 35% 22%  4%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu:  9% 22% 40%  4%  5%  4%  8%  3%  6%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 22% 29% 23%  4%  5%  4%  5%  3%  4%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 67% 22% 10%  2%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.1% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:1594.12
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

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frame - [100%] [avg time: 9.914 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 94.5%] [unaccounted: 5.52%]
| scene->Preprocess - [47%] [avg time: 4.659 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [47.5%] [avg time: 4.708 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 21.8%] [unaccounted: 25.7%]
| | CopyResource - [0.151%] [avg time: 0.015 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0706%] [avg time: 0.007 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [21.5%] [avg time: 2.134 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0605%] [avg time: 0.006 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
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Krazy

Town drunk
Which game? If your upload allows it, you can maybe go up to 3500 bitrate, but I really don't recommend much higher than that as you start running into problems with people being able to watch.

With that CPU/GPU you can do 1080p30fps, maybe 45fps for a crisper looking picture, but keep in mind that causes a lot more system strain. Downscaling will by its nature look "blurrier" but there's no way around that. If you don't mind more jagged edges and stuff in your scene, you could just set your base resolution in settings>video to 1280x720 and it should look a bit sharper, but downscaling is generally the best quality.
 

Lain

Forum Admin
Lain
Forum Moderator
Developer
Downscale has a slight blur admittedly. I might look into improving it at some point but it's pretty normal for bilinear scaling.
 
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