Question / Help Hook Detected?

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andybeech

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Hello Im still having issues with my stream I thought I got it to work but appears to still lag watching it back now using my laptop to be the chat part and seems it stutters or lags but less on my phone anyway. I found I keep getting hook conflict detected and not sure what is it I don't have fraps open dont have rapture what ever that is only OBS steam and nvidia open. Also is it best to down scale my resolution if still having buffering issues I have read through all of the sticky threads and still no use. Getting fed up, upload 3.15mps down 54mpbs UK midlands.
https://gist.github.com/7240e53731be18800911 there is my logfile for you guys 27-05-2015
Hardware:
760GTX windforce graphics,
8GB DDR3 ram
sound blaster z soundcard
gigabyte mobo
6 core AMD FX cpu
duel monitors
twitch http://twitch.tv/andybeech
using server Paris and JVping seems to say that is best.
Thanks Hope someone can help me not had much luck so far.
 
andybeech said:
Hello Im still having issues with my stream I thought I got it to work but appears to still lag watching it back now using my laptop to be the chat part and seems it stutters or lags but less on my phone anyway. I found I keep getting hook conflict detected and not sure what is it I don't have fraps open dont have rapture what ever that is only OBS steam and nvidia open. Also is it best to down scale my resolution if still having buffering issues I have read through all of the sticky threads and still no use. Getting fed up, upload 3.15mps down 54mpbs UK midlands.
https://gist.github.com/7240e53731be18800911 there is my logfile for you guys 27-05-2015
Hardware:
760GTX windforce graphics,
8GB DDR3 ram
sound blaster z soundcard
gigabyte mobo
6 core AMD FX cpu
duel monitors
twitch http://twitch.tv/andybeech
using server Paris and JVping seems to say that is best.
Thanks Hope someone can help me not had much luck so far.
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Define lag?

buffering?
stutter for viewers for the stream?
stuttering in game?
high ping in game?
stop and go stream?


but it seems from your log maybe 720@30 with fast is to much, maybe try faster or veryfast.
 
lag as in like it buffers when I view my stream on another device so the laptop my video will buffer every some many seconds and sometimes be fine for a little bit. excuse spelling, and its fine in game except for GTA V seems to lag and get high encoding but not doing that currently focusing on CSGO, Garrys mod minecraft for now, they dont get the error. and what do you mean stop and go stream sorry. and ok yea did try the faster and very fast before but log seemed to show the same problem ill try it briefly again though.
Thanks
and just a thought does avast affect streaming at all just a thought thanks
 
andybeech said:
lag as in like it buffers when I view my stream on another device so the laptop my video will buffer every some many seconds and sometimes be fine for a little bit. excuse spelling, and its fine in game except for GTA V seems to lag and get high encoding but not doing that currently focusing on CSGO, Garrys mod minecraft for now, they dont get the error. and what do you mean stop and go stream sorry. and ok yea did try the faster and very fast before but log seemed to show the same problem ill try it briefly again though.
Thanks
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Buffering isn't something you can control even for your own stream unless your bitrate is to high. See here:
https://obsproject.com/forum/thread...oads-constantly-for-my-viewers-but-why.18465/

Above is all the advice we can give you on buffering for your viewers. unfortunately, its a complicated mess what causes this, and its somewhere between the twitch web server (not the ingest) and the viewer(s). and often, the higher the bitrate, the more chance it has to lag for viewers.

Sometimes time clears this, but watching your own stream wont always give you an idea of what your viewers are seeing

that being said, listen to your viewers, not reliant on what you view from another PC on your same network.
 
ok thanks yea I just did a brief steam well was 50 minutes i keep stopping on my laptop that is but asked the viewer that said it was great so, im quiet chuffed :D
https://gist.github.com/f90d596d7671b4761a94
this is the log from that stream i changed the preset down a bit to see if that helped i think i did and i have read that thread before but thanks.
what is causing the hook connficlt though is that an issue.
 
Also if I'm correct in thinking does that mean if obs is reading no frames dropped bit rate icon green then other viewers should be able to watch fine, like I just found when streaming again having 6 people watch and said its fine no lag. Sorry not done this for long do just getting hang of it thanks
 
Viewers can still get buffering even if OBS drops no frames, that just means the data got from you to Twitch successfully. Whether a viewer experiences buffering depends on whether that data can then get from Twitch to a viewer fast enough.
 
Oh right ok and what makes that better for them or is that just one of them not able to control much things. If you know what I mean.
 
Using less bitrate will generally cut down on viewer buffering. From data Twitch released a while back, the 'sweet spot' where a majority of people will be able to watch with minimal/no buffering is 2000kbps, which is enough for a watchable 720p@30fps stream, a pretty good 540p@30fps stream, or a workable 480p@60fps stream if you need the framerate for a specific purpose.

As you're running at 1900kbps, you're fine at 720@30; the generally accepted 'unwatchable' minimum for 720@30 is 1500kbps.

Looks like you're good to go as-is. Anything else is between your viewers and the Twitch servers.
 
Ok great thanks that helped a lot more this time round thank you. Just to ask though what is the conflict hook about though.
 
andybeech said:
Ok great thanks that helped a lot more this time round thank you. Just to ask though what is the conflict hook about though.
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Hook conflict could be many many things, from an in-game overlay, to a second capturing software and maybe even windows itself might do a hook or two, steam does some as well with its built-in inhome streaming, and broadcast functions. hacks can also be considered a hook, so close your hax Kappa :P. so any one of those might be the case.

All this being said, some hooks conflict, others dont. usually, the ones that OBS knows the names of and puts them in the log, have direct issues with OBS. If it says unknown, its not often an issue.
 
dping said:
Hook conflict could be many many things, from an in-game overlay, to a second capturing software and maybe even windows itself might do a hook or two, steam does some as well with its built-in inhome streaming, and broadcast functions. hacks can also be considered a hook, so close your hax Kappa :P. so any one of those might be the case.

All this being said, some hooks conflict, others dont. usually, the ones that OBS knows the names of and puts them in the log, have direct issues with OBS. If it says unknown, its not often an issue.
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oh ok that's good then so shouldnt have a problem :D you guys have been great help and considering that you are the only person that told me that what I see is different to what a viewer can see has helped. As i used to keep stopping messing settings starting spending hours trying work it out. Hopefully now I can focus on just streaming and use the viewers to help me get better.
Thank you again :D
 
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