Question / Help DualPC Streaming - 4790k not doing Medium

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etrnlwait

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Hello guys.

I have a Dual-PC streaming setup, and here is what matters from the streaming PC:

4790k @ Stock speed (4.4 Turbo)
8 GB RAM
GTX 760 (no video card makes the preview lag and/or freeze)

I am currently streaming 720p@60fps with the Fast preset. Pushing it to Medium will make FPS drops reaaaaaaally constant, it basically drops to 15-20 a lot.


Log is attached.

Am I missing anything or is Medium just too heavy?

Thanks
 

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My 4790K performs far better than that in my 1PC setup. 720p60 on medium is usually pushing a little too hard with a game running at the same time but 15-20 FPS sounds like something is wrong. Do you have the same performance issues if you make a new scene/scene collection with only the capture card added to it (no other sources or global sources or anything else)?
 
I would just stick to Fast. The difference in quality between Fast and Medium is miniscule, but the pressure difference on the CPU is immense.
 
you have some applications also trying to use the game capture hook that OBS is using. examples of this would be overwolf, nVidia Experience, Steams In-home streaming, Steam's Broadcasting function.

I would disable and/or uninstall any of the above until your log file no longer does this:

Code: 
WARNING: Another hook is already present
while trying to hook d3d9.dll, hook target is
unknown. If you experience crashes, try
disabling the other hooking application

most people dont realize this as Valve has recently auto enabled Broadcasting from Steam even though it might not be broadcasting, it still enables the hook.
 
Osiris said:
Try dropping the webcam resolution to like 640x480.
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Would that really help out? I can try but the webcam is going to look bad I believe. Thanks.

Sapiens said:
My 4790K performs far better than that in my 1PC setup. 720p60 on medium is usually pushing a little too hard with a game running at the same time but 15-20 FPS sounds like something is wrong. Do you have the same performance issues if you make a new scene/scene collection with only the capture card added to it (no other sources or global sources or anything else)?
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I will try that! Thanks.

AndehX said:
I would just stick to Fast. The difference in quality between Fast and Medium is miniscule, but the pressure difference on the CPU is immense.
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I'm not sure, in practice, how small that difference would be but I guess you're right.

dping said:
you have some applications also trying to use the game capture hook that OBS is using. examples of this would be overwolf, nVidia Experience, Steams In-home streaming, Steam's Broadcasting function.

I would disable and/or uninstall any of the above until your log file no longer does this:

Code: 
WARNING: Another hook is already present
while trying to hook d3d9.dll, hook target is
unknown. If you experience crashes, try
disabling the other hooking application

most people dont realize this as Valve has recently auto enabled Broadcasting from Steam even though it might not be broadcasting, it still enables the hook.
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That's strange. nVidia experience is disabled and Steam is not running as it's a dedicated streaming PC.

Maybe uninstall everything from scratch?

Thanks!
 
etrnlwait said:
That's strange. nVidia experience is disabled and Steam is not running as it's a dedicated streaming PC.

Maybe uninstall everything from scratch?

Thanks!
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Just in case really. it doesn't specify what programs is trying to hook it. it could very well be the Avermedia software for all I know, just trying to help!
 
@etrnlwait That's beginning to sound more like a heat issue. I would run a program like HWMon or CoreTemp to monitor your CPU's temperature and speed while you're streaming to make sure everything is ok there. Did you ever try my suggestion earlier about creating a new scene?
 
Sapiens said:
@etrnlwait That's beginning to sound more like a heat issue. I would run a program like HWMon or CoreTemp to monitor your CPU's temperature and speed while you're streaming to make sure everything is ok there. Did you ever try my suggestion earlier about creating a new scene?
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I've been at it for 36 minutes now and I haven't noticed any frame rate drops. But I'm just browsing through windows and not actually playing games.

It's being cooler by a Noctua NH-D14 so I doubt it's a temperature problem...

Would the OBS Log show any frame drops?
 
etrnlwait said:
But I'm just browsing through windows and not actually playing games.
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What's the point of testing if you aren't trying to reproduce the conditions from before? Go stream or record a game with your usual settings and put your system to work. Yes, an improperly seated heatsink or dying fan or any number of other things can cause heat issues. The goal here is to see what your CPU temperature and frequency are during the slowdowns you experience.
 
Sapiens said:
What's the point of testing if you aren't trying to reproduce the conditions from before? Go stream or record a game with your usual settings and put your system to work. Yes, an improperly seated heatsink or dying fan or any number of other things can cause heat issues. The goal here is to see what your CPU temperature and frequency are during the slowdowns you experience.
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I did monitor yesterday while streaming.

First @ Medium, then @ Faster.

It goes well for a while then it starts to give me the High CPU USage message, I can see CPU peak @ 100% and frames drop, as well as fps.

This happened after some hours of streaming, temperatures were fine hitting around 60 or 70 at peaks, but keeping it steady... No throttling it seems.
 
What about CPU frequency? Does it stay the same or start throttling down? Does anything else starts using your CPU when you look in Task Manager?
 
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