Can a Powerline Network Adapter be a workaround for ethernet? (help)

[MegaChamp]

Yes I've already read the red sticky thread about this. However it doesn't really provide actual solutions to fix the problems.

So all of a sudden I've been having stream stability issues with OBS when I didn't really have them (much) before. I've been able to stream with my wifi somewhat consistently. Most of the time anyway. However it's been pretty bad recently.

The way I've been streaming is by using PS4 Remote Play on my laptop to get my PS4 to run on my laptop and then recording that screen with OBS. Mostly it works. But now it doesn't for whatever reason. Or it's very choppy/laggy/dropping a lot.

My PS4 is on a different floor of my house then my router & modem. It's physically impossible for me to move either one closer to the other one. I don't think really long ethernet cables exist. Even if they do my parent wouldn't like it and I have pets that like to chew on things so that's basically a no go as well.

I have a Powerline Network Adapter though. But it's a bit inconsistent as well. I get better speeds with my laptop on wifi then I do when I have the Powerline Network Adapter plugged in and connected to my laptop. Generally when I have the Powerline Network Adapter connected to my PS4 it works better than my wifi with it. Sometimes though it's pretty much the same as my wifi when I have it connected to my PS4.

I've had my bitrate at 2000 and I changed it o 3000 and it appeared to work better but was still choppy/laggy/dropping at times. I'm not sure if there's a recommended bitrate for this though.

If you need to know what Powerline Network Adapter I have. It's this one. https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AV60...e+network+adapter+av600&qid=1592090169&sr=8-3

I guess I could potentially have the wrong Powerline Network Adapter but if that's the case I don't know what the correct Powerline Network Adapter to have is.

I'd really appreciate any help with this. Thank you.

Log file:

https://obsproject.com/logs/KDU0O_Wzds1AuNkL

 

[qhobbes]

1. Make sure that your powerline adapters are plugged directly into the wall. DO NOT plug them into a power-strip/surge-protector.
I set these up at my dad's house and was able to get 10 Mbps (but that's as fast as his internet goes...).
If you got the funds (and coax in each room), a MoCA ethernet adapter might be a better option.

 

[MegaChamp]

1. Make sure that your powerline adapters are plugged directly into the wall. DO NOT plug them into a power-strip/surge-protector.
I set these up at my dad's house and was able to get 10 Mbps (but that's as fast as his internet goes...).
If you got the funds (and coax in each room), a MoCA ethernet adapter might be a better option.

Yep. It's directly into the wall.

You'll have to give me more information on that other ethernet adapter as I've never heard of it before.

 

[qhobbes]

Those are coaxial ethernet adapters just like powerline ethernet adapters but they use the coax cables in your residence instead.

If you go this route make sure to get one that is compatible with your cable provider. Satellite TV providers seem to be an issue.

 

[MegaChamp]

Those are coaxial ethernet adapters just like powerline ethernet adapters but they use the coax cables in your residence instead.

If you go this route make sure to get one that is compatible with your cable provider. Satellite TV providers seem to be an issue.

I don't think that will work for me then because there is no coax cables where my laptop is except for one cable that's connected to my TV for cable TV.

Is there maybe a better Powerline Network Adapter I can try to get?

I've also been considering getting a Capture Card. Would that fix this issue?

 

[MegaChamp]

Those are coaxial ethernet adapters just like powerline ethernet adapters but they use the coax cables in your residence instead.

If you go this route make sure to get one that is compatible with your cable provider. Satellite TV providers seem to be an issue.

I don't think that will work for me then because there is no coax cables where my laptop is except for one cable that's connected to my TV for cable TV.

Is there maybe a better Powerline Network Adapter I can try to get?

I've also been considering getting a Capture Card. Would that fix this issue?

 

[qhobbes]

There are Powerline Network Adapters that allegedly (Simon Whistler style) offer gigabit speeds. Yours is only rated at 600Mbps. Make sure that all your ethernet ports in the process (laptop/router-switch/ps4) are gigabit.

 

[MegaChamp]

There are Powerline Network Adapters that allegedly (Simon Whistler style) offer gigabit speeds. Yours is only rated at 600Mbps. Make sure that all your ethernet ports in the process (laptop/router-switch/ps4) are gigabit.

I'm not sure how to find that out but okay.

 

[qhobbes]

13:29:59.611: [rtmp stream: 'adv_stream'] Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
Your laptop appears ton only has 100 mbps ethernet. You may need a USB 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter. What is your router/switch?

Try updating the drivers for you network adapter. Also the firmware for Powerline Network Adapters may need to updated. See https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/download/tl-pa4010-kit/#Firmware . I'm pretty sure you need the utility to do this (also available on that page).

 

[MegaChamp]

13:29:59.611: [rtmp stream: 'adv_stream'] Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
Your laptop appears ton only has 100 mbps ethernet. You may need a USB 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter. What is your router/switch?

Try updating the drivers for you network adapter. Also the firmware for Powerline Network Adapters may need to updated. See https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/download/tl-pa4010-kit/#Firmware . I'm pretty sure you need the utility to do this (also available on that page).

I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean my modem/router? If so I have a Ubee modem/router. That's about as specific I can get. It says on the sticker it's 'TWC Model' is DVW32CB but I'm not sure if that helps. I also have a Spectrum router.

My Powerline Network Adapter didn't come with firmware as far as I know. I wasn't aware I needed to do something like that because it didn't say anything like that in the quick installation guide it came with. I can try that but it always worked without it so I just used it normally.

If I need a USB 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter I can look into that as well

 

[qhobbes]

You can get a third power line adapter. I'm 99% sure you have to add it in to the network using the utility on that page. (This works. I've set it up at my dad's). That way they are both on a wired connection.

The firmware is on the hardware and is updateable. I did this on the pair I had and the connection was better than before (think this is in utility).

Your network card might be gigabit. Check on the manufacture's site or mobo's site. You can also try plugging it into the DVW32CB with good/new ethernet cable, then in Windows search for "device manager" --> Network adapters --> right-click ethernet adapter --> properties --> advanced --> speed & duplex --> check list of values.

also try opening task manager, performance tab, go to network one (ethernet/wifi?), right click on throughput box and select "view network details". Check "Link speed".

Do you use Ubee and Spectrum router or just one?

 

[MegaChamp]

You can get a third power line adapter. I'm 99% sure you have to add it in to the network using the utility on that page. (This works. I've set it up at my dad's). That way they are both on a wired connection.

The firmware is on the hardware and is updateable. I did this on the pair I had and the connection was better than before (think this is in utility).

Your network card might be gigabit. Check on the manufacture's site or mobo's site. You can also try plugging it into the DVW32CB with good/new ethernet cable, then in Windows search for "device manager" --> Network adapters --> right-click ethernet adapter --> properties --> advanced --> speed & duplex --> check list of values.

also try opening task manager, performance tab, go to network one (ethernet/wifi?), right click on throughput box and select "view network details". Check "Link speed".

Do you use Ubee and Spectrum router or just one?

I use both because the wifi with just the Ubee modem was bad so my ISP installed a router to make the wifi better.

I don't know why I need a third one. I just need one other one to connect to other devices. The ethernet on my second computer (not my laptop) is bad and doesn't work anyway. I only need one to connect directly to my modem and one to connect to my other device(s). So am I supposed to do this utility thing on both of the computers in question? If not which one am I supposed to do it on?

 

[MegaChamp]

Apologies for the double post but it won't let me edit my posts.

I did what you asked and I was able to check it without having to connect my laptop to my modem.

Speed & Duplex does list 1.0 Gigabit in the list of values. But it's set to 'Auto Negotiation'

I did the other option you suggested as well and it lists '1 Gbps' next to link speed under Ethernet

 

[qhobbes]

If I recall, you plug the third adapter into an outlet and the use the utility on a computer that is connected to existing pair. Then you input some code on the back of the adapter and it adds it to the "network" of the existing adapters.

Don't stream over wireless. In many cases, wireless connections can cause issues because of their unstable nature. Streaming really requires a stable connection. Often wireless connections are fine, but if you have problems, then we are going to be very unlikely to be able to help you diagnose it if you're on a wireless just because it adds yet another variable. We recommend streaming on wired connections.

With 3 adapters you can have the PS4 streaming to your laptop and they'll both be connected to the internet. I suppose with crossover ethernet cable you could setup a local network between your PS4 and laptop using only 2 adapters. I can't help with that.

 

[MegaChamp]

Okay.

BTW I tried doing as you suggested. With the Powerline Network Adapter and it's utility and hardware.

There was no difference in speeds with my laptop. It was still around 50 mbps download and 10 mbps upload. Download is higher and around the 70-80 mbps download range with wifi on my laptop.