Question / Help Both stream and game lagging

SaltyRay · Feb 12, 2017

Hello, some time ago i was streaming with same configuration as now. I hadn't problems but yesterday i decided to remember what is to stream and started a stream is OBS Studio but 2 minutes later i stopped the stream because in CS:GO my fps dropped from 200+ to 100-120 and stream looked like a shit, it was very laggy... I have streamed with same settings before and i hadnt problems. Can the problem be my configuration? Can it still handle streaming?

Log File: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/15dfe4b7fdae5ac89243b280da598465

My Configuration:

CPU – Intel Core i5-3470 - 3.20 to 3.60 GHz
RAM – 8GB DDR3
GPU – NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Upload speed - 90 Mbps+

EBrito · Feb 12, 2017

1280x720px30FPS Veryfast
19:50:49.200: Output 'adv_stream': Number of skipped frames due to encoding lag: 714 (45.0%) -->your CPU is overloaded
19:50:49.200: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 13 (0.8%) --> youyr GPU is limiting

As CSGO is also CPU intensive, this CPU overload causes CSGO fps drops.
Reduce ingame graphics settings, and / or limit FPS.

Streaming with QSV encoding:
1280x720x30FPS
19:53:22.045: Output 'adv_stream': Number of skipped frames due to encoding lag: 1 (0.1%) --> GPU encoder limiting
19:53:22.045: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 9 (0.5%)--> GPU limiting

Rescale down to 1092x614 or even 910x512 to avoid CPU problems. Use x264 for better image.
Rescale only in video settings. Leave output rescaleunchecked.

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

Okay, I did what you said me and now in-game fps is OK. But there is "Encoder Overloaded" message and i asked a friend to check my stream and he said that the stream is laggy.

https://gist.github.com/112d08079e6fd67b1bd88ed6b5a3c2a9

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

1280x720x30FPS x264 veryfast 2300 Kbps
23:32:03.417: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 76 (0.6%) ---> GPU limiting
23:32:03.417: Output 'adv_stream': Number of dropped frames due to insufficient bandwidth/connection stalls: 193 (1.5%) --> not enough network bandwith? 2300 kbps + 128kbps audio + game, you need at least 3000 kbps ( 3 Mbit) for this

1280x720x30FPS NVENC hig quality 2500 kbps
01:08:36.496: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 27 (0.0%) ---> GPU limiting
01:08:36.496: Output 'adv_stream': Number of dropped frames due to insufficient bandwidth/connection stalls: 142 (0.1%) --> network issues

As I said before, rescale down to 1092x614 or similar

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

For network issues, check anothe possible Twitch server
Use this test
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/478845-twitchtest-twitch-bandwidth-tester

Use TCP windo 64 K and 60 sec.

Any server with quality above 80 is good.

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

EBrito said:
For network issues, check anothe possible Twitch server
Use this test
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/478845-twitchtest-twitch-bandwidth-tester

Use TCP windo 64 K and 60 sec.

Any server with quality above 80 is good.

http://i.imgur.com/fzwD7ko.png

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

All server are unusable. Quality 0
Do you get always this results?

With this tes:
http://www.therealtimeweb.com/index.cfm/2004/10/2/fms-port-tester
You need to succed all ports , like this

RMTP Default Success 4.5s
RMTP Port 1935 Success 4.5s
RMTP Port 80 Success 4.5s
RMTP Port 443 Success 5s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Default Success 6s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 80 Success 6s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 443 Success 6s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 1935 Success 6s

If not, you have to talk to your ISP.

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

EBrito said:
All server are unusable. Quality 0
Do you get always this results?

With this tes:
http://www.therealtimeweb.com/index.cfm/2004/10/2/fms-port-tester
You need to succed all ports , like this

RMTP Default Success 4.5s
RMTP Port 1935 Success 4.5s
RMTP Port 80 Success 4.5s
RMTP Port 443 Success 5s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Default Success 6s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 80 Success 6s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 443 Success 6s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 1935 Success 6s

If not, you have to talk to your ISP.

RMTP Default Success 1s
RMTP Port 1935 Success 1s
RMTP Port 80 Success 1s
RMTP Port 443 Success 1s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Default Success 2.1s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 80 Success 2s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 443 Success 2s
RMTPT (Tunneling) Port 1935 Success 2s

It's seems ok but i didnt expect that results in TwitchTest. I don't know what is the problem...

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

Maybe tcpoptimizer can help you configure your network for beter results
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

EBrito said:
Maybe tcpoptimizer can help you configure your network for beter results
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

Should I choose Optimal Settings ?

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

I choose optimal settings.
You can make a backup of yur setings if you want to revert changes.

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

EBrito said:
I choose optimal settings.
You can make a backup of yur setings if you want to revert changes.

I used the optimizer but results are same:
http://i.imgur.com/jS9Hqm5.png

PS: I restored my previous settings in TCPOptimizer and decided to optimize it again, this time I pulled connection speed in the opmizer to 100+ Mbps and that happened: http://i.imgur.com/jDH99mw.png

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

The game now is OK, without lag but the stream is still very laggy...
This is the log file: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c598122b6ee3fbada7fb0088344547f6

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

21:58:13.322: Output 'adv_stream': Number of skipped frames due to encoding lag: 1884 (35.9%) --> CPU overloaded
21:58:13.322: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 80 (1.5%) --> GPU limiting
21:58:13.322: Output 'adv_stream': Number of dropped frames due to insufficient bandwidth/connection stalls: 185 (3.5%) --> A few network issues

Rescale down to 540p or even 480p
Rescale in video settings
And, remember, rescale only in video settings. Leave output rescale unchecked.

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

EBrito said:
21:58:13.322: Output 'adv_stream': Number of skipped frames due to encoding lag: 1884 (35.9%) --> CPU overloaded
21:58:13.322: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 80 (1.5%) --> GPU limiting
21:58:13.322: Output 'adv_stream': Number of dropped frames due to insufficient bandwidth/connection stalls: 185 (3.5%) --> A few network issues

Rescale down to 540p or even 480p
Rescale in video settings
And, remember, rescale only in video settings. Leave output rescale unchecked.

After a lot of tries, I set 1366x768, rescaled to 1280x720p 30FPS, 2000 kbps bitrate and i decided to run DIRT 3 instead of CS:GO and boom - no lag in-game, no lag on stream... I tried CS:GO with same settings and the stream starting to be laggy. Can the problem be that CS:GO is set to High Priority?

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

CSGO: reduce Anysotropic and MSAA and other graphic settings.

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

EBrito said:
CSGO: reduce Anysotropic and MSAA and other graphic settings.

That is my current settings: http://i.imgur.com/NrtPuFO.png

EBrito · Feb 13, 2017

Mine: (GTX 750Ti) (CPU: Core2Quad Q6600 OC 3.0 Ghz)
https://gyazo.com/798feeb32e36527e2760aa7571c1c67f

Muy baja = very low
Baja = low
Alta = High
Muy alta = very high

My launch options:
-high -novid -threads 4 -nod3d9ex -nojoy +mat_vignette_enable 0 +rate 128000 +tickrate 128 +cl_updaterate 128 +cl_cmdrate 128 +cl_interp 0 +cl_interp_ratio 1 +mat_queue_mode 2 +force_preload 1

SaltyRay · Feb 13, 2017

EBrito said:
Mine: (GTX 750Ti) (CPU: Core2Quad Q6600 OC 3.0 Ghz)
https://gyazo.com/798feeb32e36527e2760aa7571c1c67f

Muy baja = very low
Baja = low
Alta = High
Muy alta = very high

My launch options:
-high -novid -threads 4 -nod3d9ex -nojoy +mat_vignette_enable 0 +rate 128000 +tickrate 128 +cl_updaterate 128 +cl_cmdrate 128 +cl_interp 0 +cl_interp_ratio 1 +mat_queue_mode 2 +force_preload 1

I tried your settings but the lag is same. I have tried to set OBS to High Priority and it was better but still laggy.

SaltyRay · Feb 15, 2017

OK, I think i found the problem - CS:GO uses 90% my CPU and there isn't enough power for OBS but i don't know how to fix it.

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