Question / Help Bitrate suggestions.

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andreplaysgames

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Hello!

I know there are alot of these requests in this forum but I wanted to create my own thread still. My circumstances are a little different. I do not have alot of experience from streaming and and the 2 people that will give me feedback on the stream quality suffers from slow computers and internet connections. But both of them says that my image quality is very pixalated and sometimes buffering. They both have T1 10mb downloadspeed.

I run a dual PC setup with an El Gato HD60S as capture card. I guess listing the hardware for the gaming pc is not needed I still will write that down.

Gaming rig:
i7 8700k @Stock speed
MSI 1080 Ti 11gb
16gb 2666mhz RAM
Running at 1080p

I am having about 70mb/s upload speed. I am using twitch and x264 with 2900 bitrate setting. Logfile included below.

https://obsproject.com/logs/zw71s4M4mKIgzU6z

Any feedback would be much appreciated as I don't want to stream with crappy video/audio unknowingly.
Thanks
 
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andreplaysgames

New Member
@BK-Morpheus I will try that out during my stream tonight. I did hope my dedicated streaming PC would handle at least 1080p 30fps + the bandwidth. But hey it's no biggie. I'll be back with feedback.

Thank you very much for that suggestion.
 
BK-Morpheus

BK-Morpheus

Active Member
It has nothing to do with the power of your rig. There is only so much you can do with a given bitrate range...1080p 60fps will look very compressed, when the content has a lot of moving/changing details in it.
Diablo 3 or Hearthstone can look good with 1080p 60fps 6000kbit/s, but Fortnite, PUBG, ARK and many more games will not.
 
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andreplaysgames

New Member
BK-Morpheus said:
It has nothing to do with the power of your rig. There is only so much you can do with a given bitrate range...1080p 60fps will look very compressed, when the content has a lot of moving/changing details in it.
Diablo 3 or Hearthstone can look good with 1080p 60fps 6000kbit/s, but Fortnite, PUBG, ARK and many more games will not.
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Hello @BK-Morpheus sorry for the really late response. Thanks for the help though it seems to improved the streaming quality. It's just that 720p 30fps really hurt my eyes here in late 2k18 :). Are there any calculators or resources to look into when looking for 'the bitrate sweetspot' or the only way to try and let others observe and give feedback? I am actually thinking of upgrading my bandwidth to 250/250mbit/s, its just 10 euros more per month. And that would probably land me in the ~170-200mbit/s UL speed.
 
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TryHD

Member
you have plenty of upload, so 7500 kbit/s with 1680x1050 at 60 fps should be good for you on twitch, even though youtube would be a better plattform for you because you can go for higher bitrate.
 
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andreplaysgames

New Member
@TryHD There you see. I do appreciate the suggestion, thanks. Even the 2 suggestions are wildly different they do have value right? The thing I mentioned in OP was that there should really be a tool that can somewhat calculate suggested bitrate with variables like rig, UL speed, game type (fast gamepace or slower) and somewhat instead of having people join the stream, not giving feedback and never return because it all looks like shit. I think there might be a demand of tool like that in the market.

Thank you good people for the suggestions though. I will dabble around and try to get some feedback from friends.
 
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