Question / Help Best settings? (noting performance decrease)

wrecky · Sep 4, 2013

So, basically I recently built a new pc and as I had a tight budget I decided to keep my old GPU. The specs are the following :

i5-4570 3.2GHZ @ 3.6GHz Turbo
Powercolor XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5
4GB Kingston HyperX Black RAM
Windows 8 x64

Speedtest : http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2945157747

I should be able to stream with these specs right? When I'm trying to stream LoL the game gets all stuttery and when I stop streaming it goes perfectly smooth.

dodgepong · Sep 4, 2013

http://obsproject.com/estimator is a good place to start.

Kharay · Sep 4, 2013

Given the fact you already did try to stream, could you post a log of a session that was troublesome? http://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=97

wrecky · Sep 4, 2013

Code:

15:01:46: Open Broadcaster Software v0.554b - 64bit (　^ω^)
15:01:46: -------------------------------
15:01:46: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570 CPU @ 3.20GHz
15:01:46: CPU Speed: 3193MHz
15:01:46: Physical Memory:  3975MB Total, 2483MB Free
15:01:46: stepping id: 3, model 12, family 6, type 0, extmodel 1, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4
15:01:46: monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1280, 1024}
15:01:46: Windows Version: 6.2 Build 9200 
15:01:46: Aero is Enabled
15:01:46: -------------------------------
15:01:46: OBS Modules:
15:01:46: Base Address     Module
15:01:46: 0000000081420000 OBS.exe
15:01:46: 000000009E120000 OBSApi.dll
15:01:46: 00000000A0830000 DShowPlugin.dll
15:01:46: 00000000A0800000 GraphicsCapture.dll
15:01:46: 00000000A33A0000 NoiseGate.dll
15:01:46: 00000000A3180000 PSVPlugin.dll
15:01:46: ------------------------------------------
15:01:46: Adapter 1
15:01:46:   Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
15:01:46:   Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1067274240
15:01:46:   Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1815611392
15:01:46: =====Stream Start: 2013-09-04, 15:01:46===============================================
15:01:46:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
15:01:46:   Base resolution: 1280x1024
15:01:46:   Output resolution: 1280x1024
15:01:46: ------------------------------------------
15:01:46: Loading up D3D10 on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series...
15:01:46: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawTexture.pShader.blob
15:01:46: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawSolid.pShader.blob
15:01:46: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawYUVTexture.pShader.blob
15:01:46: Playback device Default
15:01:46: ------------------------------------------
15:01:46: Using desktop audio input: Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
15:01:47: ------------------------------------------
15:01:47: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
15:01:47: ------------------------------------------
15:01:47: Audio Encoding: AAC
15:01:47:     bitrate: 128
15:01:47: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/ColorKey_RGB.pShader.blob
15:01:47: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/AlphaIgnore.pShader.blob
15:01:47: Using Monitor Capture
15:01:47: ------------------------------------------
15:01:47: Video Encoding: x264
15:01:47:     fps: 30
15:01:47:     width: 1280, height: 1024
15:01:47:     preset: veryfast
15:01:47:     CBR: yes
15:01:47:     CFR: yes
15:01:47:     max bitrate: 2500
15:01:47:     buffer size: 2500
15:01:47: ------------------------------------------
15:01:47: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 384000, samples per sec is 48000
15:01:47: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
15:01:48: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
15:01:48:   Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app
15:01:48:   Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
15:01:50: SO_SNDBUF was at 65536
15:01:50: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
15:01:51: RTMPPublisher::Socketloop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 131072 (buffer: 55536 / 335872)
15:01:51: RTMPPublisher::Socketloop: Increasing send buffer to ISB 262144 (buffer: 38673 / 335872)
15:06:40: Total frames rendered: 8794, number of late frames: 4 (0.05%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
15:06:40: Total duplicated frames to ensure constant framerate: 12 (0.14%)
15:06:40: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
15:06:40: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
15:06:40: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
15:06:41: 
15:06:41: Profiler results:
15:06:41: 
15:06:41: ==============================================================
15:06:41: frame - [100%] [avg time: 3.353 ms (cpu time: avg 2.562 ms, total 22531.3 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.9%] [unaccounted: 0.119%]
15:06:41: | frame preprocessing and rendering - [13.5%] [avg time: 0.451 ms (cpu time: avg 0.204 ms, total 1796.88 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 8.74%] [unaccounted: 4.71%]
15:06:41: | | scene->Preprocess - [8.74%] [avg time: 0.293 ms (cpu time: avg 0.095 ms, total 843.75 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:06:41: | video encoding and uploading - [86.4%] [avg time: 2.898 ms (cpu time: avg 2.357 ms, total 20734.4 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 83.2%] [unaccounted: 3.25%]
15:06:41: | | flush - [10.2%] [avg time: 0.342 ms (cpu time: avg 0.087 ms, total 765.625 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:06:41: | | CopyResource - [0.328%] [avg time: 0.011 ms (cpu time: avg 0.007 ms, total 62.5 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:41: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.537%] [avg time: 0.018 ms (cpu time: avg 0.003 ms, total 31.25 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:41: | | call to encoder - [70.4%] [avg time: 2.36 ms (cpu time: avg 2.208 ms, total 19421.9 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:41: | | sending stuff out - [1.73%] [avg time: 0.058 ms (cpu time: avg 0.039 ms, total 343.75 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:41: | Convert444Threads - [1.98e+003%] [avg time: 66.539 ms (cpu time: avg 2.688 ms, total 23640.6 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:06:41: ==============================================================
15:06:41: 
15:06:41: =====Stream End: 2013-09-04, 15:06:41=================================================
15:06:41: =====Stream Start: 2013-09-04, 15:06:41===============================================
15:06:41:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
15:06:41:   Base resolution: 1280x1024
15:06:41:   Output resolution: 1280x1024
15:06:41: ------------------------------------------
15:06:41: Loading up D3D10 on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series...
15:06:41: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawTexture.pShader.blob
15:06:41: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawSolid.pShader.blob
15:06:41: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawYUVTexture.pShader.blob
15:06:41: Playback device Default
15:06:41: ------------------------------------------
15:06:41: Using desktop audio input: Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
15:06:41: ------------------------------------------
15:06:41: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
15:06:41: ------------------------------------------
15:06:41: Audio Encoding: AAC
15:06:41:     bitrate: 128
15:06:41: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/ColorKey_RGB.pShader.blob
15:06:41: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/AlphaIgnore.pShader.blob
15:06:41: Using Monitor Capture
15:06:41: ------------------------------------------
15:06:41: Video Encoding: x264
15:06:41:     fps: 30
15:06:41:     width: 1280, height: 1024
15:06:41:     preset: veryfast
15:06:41:     CBR: yes
15:06:41:     CFR: yes
15:06:41:     max bitrate: 2500
15:06:41:     buffer size: 2500
15:06:41: ------------------------------------------
15:06:41: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 384000, samples per sec is 48000
15:06:41: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
15:06:42: Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
15:06:42:   Server selection: rtmp://live-lhr.justin.tv/app
15:06:42:   Interface: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (ethernet, 100 mbps)
15:06:42: Total frames rendered: 31, number of late frames: 0 (0.00%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
15:06:42: Total duplicated frames to ensure constant framerate: 0 (0.00%)
15:06:44: SO_SNDBUF was at 65536
15:06:44: SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
15:06:44: RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Graceful loop exit
15:06:44: Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
15:06:44: Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (-1.$%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (-1.$%), Total 0 (-1.$%)
15:06:44: 
15:06:44: Profiler results:
15:06:44: 
15:06:44: ==============================================================
15:06:44: frame - [100%] [avg time: 1.281 ms (cpu time: avg 1.008 ms, total 31.25 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.8%] [unaccounted: 0.234%]
15:06:44: | frame preprocessing and rendering - [49.3%] [avg time: 0.631 ms (cpu time: avg 0.504 ms, total 15.625 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 18.4%] [unaccounted: 30.8%]
15:06:44: | | scene->Preprocess - [18.4%] [avg time: 0.236 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:06:44: | video encoding and uploading - [50.5%] [avg time: 0.647 ms (cpu time: avg 0.504 ms, total 15.625 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 49%] [unaccounted: 1.48%]
15:06:44: | | flush - [8.98%] [avg time: 0.115 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:06:44: | | CopyResource - [0.234%] [avg time: 0.003 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:44: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0781%] [avg time: 0.001 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:44: | | call to encoder - [39.7%] [avg time: 0.509 ms (cpu time: avg 0.504 ms, total 15.625 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:44: | | sending stuff out - [0%] [avg time: 0 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:44: | Convert444Threads - [2.35e+003%] [avg time: 30.067 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:06:44: ==============================================================
15:06:44: 
15:06:44: =====Stream End: 2013-09-04, 15:06:44=================================================
15:08:01: =====Stream Start: 2013-09-04, 15:08:01===============================================
15:08:01:   Multithreaded optimizations: On
15:08:01:   Base resolution: 1280x1024
15:08:01:   Output resolution: 1280x1024
15:08:01: ------------------------------------------
15:08:01: Loading up D3D10 on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series...
15:08:01: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawTexture.pShader.blob
15:08:01: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawSolid.pShader.blob
15:08:01: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/DrawYUVTexture.pShader.blob
15:08:01: Playback device Default
15:08:01: ------------------------------------------
15:08:01: Using desktop audio input: Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
15:08:01: ------------------------------------------
15:08:01: Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
15:08:01: ------------------------------------------
15:08:01: Audio Encoding: AAC
15:08:01:     bitrate: 128
15:08:01: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/ColorKey_RGB.pShader.blob
15:08:01: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/AlphaIgnore.pShader.blob
15:08:01: Using Window Capture
15:08:01: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/ColorKey_RGB.pShader.blob
15:08:01: C:/Users/Filipe Martins/AppData/Roaming/OBS/shaderCache/shaders/AlphaIgnore.pShader.blob
15:08:01: Using Monitor Capture
15:08:01: ------------------------------------------
15:08:01: Video Encoding: x264
15:08:01:     fps: 30
15:08:01:     width: 1280, height: 1024
15:08:01:     preset: veryfast
15:08:01:     CBR: yes
15:08:01:     CFR: yes
15:08:01:     max bitrate: 2500
15:08:01:     buffer size: 2500
15:08:01: ------------------------------------------
15:08:01: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 384000, samples per sec is 48000
15:08:01: MMDeviceAudioSource: Frequency for device 'Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)' is 352800, samples per sec is 44100
15:09:21: Total frames rendered: 2386, number of late frames: 9 (0.38%) (it's okay for some frames to be late)
15:09:21: Total duplicated frames to ensure constant framerate: 2 (0.08%)
15:09:21: 
15:09:21: Profiler results:
15:09:21: 
15:09:21: ==============================================================
15:09:21: frame - [100%] [avg time: 3.206 ms (cpu time: avg 2.364 ms, total 5640.63 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.9%] [unaccounted: 0.0624%]
15:09:21: | frame preprocessing and rendering - [25.6%] [avg time: 0.822 ms (cpu time: avg 0.406 ms, total 968.75 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 13.8%] [unaccounted: 11.8%]
15:09:21: | | scene->Preprocess - [13.8%] [avg time: 0.444 ms (cpu time: avg 0.17 ms, total 406.25 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:09:21: | video encoding and uploading - [74.3%] [avg time: 2.382 ms (cpu time: avg 1.958 ms, total 4671.88 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 69.6%] [unaccounted: 4.74%]
15:09:21: | | flush - [5.8%] [avg time: 0.186 ms (cpu time: avg 0.058 ms, total 140.625 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:09:21: | | CopyResource - [0.218%] [avg time: 0.007 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:09:21: | | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.156%] [avg time: 0.005 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:09:21: | | call to encoder - [63.3%] [avg time: 2.031 ms (cpu time: avg 1.879 ms, total 4484.38 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:09:21: | | sending stuff out - [0.0312%] [avg time: 0.001 ms (cpu time: avg 0 ms, total 0 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 0]
15:09:21: | Convert444Threads - [2.07e+003%] [avg time: 66.238 ms (cpu time: avg 2.573 ms, total 6140.63 ms)] [avg calls per frame: 1]
15:09:21: ==============================================================
15:09:21: 
15:09:21: =====Stream End: 2013-09-04, 15:09:21=================================================

alpinlol · Sep 5, 2013

disable aero when you are going to use monitor capture or leave it enabled but use either game capture or window capture instead.

also theres no real need for cfr when you are life streaming

Kharay · Sep 5, 2013

It's Windows 8, alpinlol. So, Monitor Capture is just fine. And Aero cannot be disabled in Windows 8. ;) As far as CFR goes, well... I don't think CFR is causing the issue in this case. If it had, the issue would be much, much worse.

@wrecky: The log does not suggest any serious problems. Could you show us a past broadcast/VOD that shows this issue you're experiencing? Or is it just on your end?

Boildown · Sep 5, 2013

alpinlol said:
also theres no real need for cfr when you are life streaming

Huh? You should always enable CFR. Variable framerate has been the source of many problems on these forums.

For the OP: Speedtest isn't a good test for streaming purposes. Use testmy.net instead.

wrecky · Sep 6, 2013

Kharay said:
It's Windows 8, alpinlol. So, Monitor Capture is just fine. And Aero cannot be disabled in Windows 8. ;) As far as CFR goes, well... I don't think CFR is causing the issue in this case. If it had, the issue would be much, much worse.

@wrecky: The log does not suggest any serious problems. Could you show us a past broadcast/VOD that shows this issue you're experiencing? Or is it just on your end?

It's just on my end, the stream looks fine. Streaming doesn't need too much CPU but I guess in FPS games im pushing it too far, that must be it right?

Kharay · Sep 6, 2013

Well, if it is just on your end you could consider dropping the in-game settings a bit. Just to get a bit more FPS out of the game itself.

alpinlol · Sep 6, 2013

whoops didnt read the windows 8 part :(

an no you should not always enable cfr

Kharay · Sep 6, 2013

Actually, yes, you should. Once the test version makes it to release, there is no more reason not to have CFR enabled. Which is why it is enabled by default from that point on. Thing is, numerous video manipulation programs do have issues with VFR and Twitch's profiler also still has some issues actually accurately detecting the specified keyframe interval without CFR. And as a result will not accurately label a stream as Excellent and consequently may fail to provide said stream to mobile devices.

Question / Help Best settings? (noting performance decrease)

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