Question / Help Best settings for a very very fast game, need help

[lowcrow]

Hey everyone ;)

I recently started streaming the game "Rocket League" a very very fast game which is a big problem regarding the quality!

I will link you my latest broadcast: http://www.twitch.tv/l0wcrow/v/28952820 I streamed with 720p @60fps @ 3000 kb/s

If game is getting fast it looks really bad in my opinion, just look at cam or the gamepad in the overlay. Is there anything I can do to get better quality overall? I can user a bit higher bitrate I think max 3300 but maybee there is something I can configure in the advanced tab which could help?

Hardware and Internet Connection shouldnt be a problem.

i7-4790k @ 4,7 GHz
970 GTX
16GB Ram 2400 Mhz
Upload: 10 Mb/s

Thanks for all answers in advance!


ps: There is another question! Lately a lot of my viewers told me they have a lot of trouble with 60fps streams, not just mine...you would recommend to stream in 30 fps? I just bought my new pc and had also trouble with 60 fps...Solution was disabling HW acceleration in Chrome to get smooth video in fullscreen...just wondering now if it isnt better to stream in 30 fps then...I have quality options so people can lower and get 30 fps on High but seriously the quality options are the biggest crap ever. @ High they lower the bitrate @1000-1300 almost every game looks bad then...

 

[FaHu]

If you want see a good streamquality your viewers need a good connection too. To increase the quality without using more upload speed you could increase the cpu preset to faster fast or lower. But that cost more redources and the game could be stuck. You could also try to set the fps lower to 30. But my opinion is the lower fps looks so 2010. If you have a quality button i wouldnt see a problem to increase the upload. If people cant see your stream because of shit connection. Its their fail. And other people with better connection have better quality at all.

 

[FaHu]

Fast games looks at least never clear and sharp, If you dont use 6000 kbit/sec upload

 

[AviateZone]

You could try to go with 3300kb/s max bitrate. I got the same CPU as you have and i am running my x264 CPU Preset on faster. I see you have overclocked your processor so you might try fast in the x264 CPU Preset option in the advanced tab. You can try to fix the fps issue with 45 fps or higher. If that doesn't work you should try 40, then 35. If that still don't works, you should go with 30 fps.

 

[FaHu]

There is no fps issue if your cpu is not over used. Higher cpu preset is also brings ingame stucks/ lower ingame fps. So be care about it. But to use higher preset and just low fps is a waste of resources. The stream still has a high quality with lower fps and an upload of 3000 kbit/sec

 

[FerretBomb]

If you are non-Partnered, it is advised not to exceed 2000kbps, to help reduce/minimize buffering for your viewers. A 720p@30fps stream fits into this nicely.

In the Advanced settings, the slower your x264 preset is, the better compression will be used, and the better your stream will look at a given bitrate. That said, the slower settings can CRUSH any CPU out there. Move down one step at a time, testing for 20-30 minutes each, watching CPU load, temperature, and throttling. I normally advise around 80% load as the target while in-game and streaming; could probably push it to 90% if your variance is low enough, but would run the risk of in-game performance being affected, and frame dupes/skips/drops.

6000kbps is absolutely not needed for clear 720p@60 video. Even 4500 starts hitting the reducing rate of returns. Still not advised to use these rates unless Partnered (so you have transcoding/quality options available for anyone on a weaker connection).

 

[lowcrow]

Sry, was very busy last day so I wasnt able to answer.

I was able to use "medium" so the 3rd lowest...looked a bit better but I was expecting a bit more but thanks for the tip!

@#4 The problem wasnt streaming 60fps it was myself who had problems to watch it...fixed the problem with disabling HW acceleration in browser, but lately many viewers told me they have trouble with 60fps thats why I was thinking to go back to 30fps so overall viewers have less problems. Well I tested a lot of settings last 2 days and same opinion than #2 30 fps just looks bad. This maybee works for a game like Hearthstone but any other game looks much better with more frames.

One sentence as partnered channel regarding quality options: In my opinion just crap...if you go on "High" twitch offers 1000-1200 kb/s not exactly sure but this look just shit for almost every game so in fact quality options is completely useless, I could never watch a stream on High...

Well after a lot of testing i think the best possible settings are 720p @60fps with 3333 kb/s video and 128 kb/s audio cpu preset at fast and video filter lanczos. Sad part I am not happy with the result but I think I cant do more and streaming with lower bitrate for people who generally have problems watching source would need a source bitrate 2000 kb/s or even lower but thats no option for a game like rocket league. So in the end I will use the high bitrate to offer the best possible quality and people who cant watch source have to deal with high settings :(

If there is anything else I can try let me know. btw the videofilter is effecting the gpu right, do you guys see any noticeable difference using bicubic or lanczos instead of bilinear. I know bilinear is the worst but didnt see much difference aswell...