AVerMedia's GC553G2 HDMI 2.1 Video Capture Card at 4k60p Capture is FAKE

[Zolja007]

Very sad day to see this product not perform... I just saw the "grand" update for MacOS M1/M2/M3 update, and boy what an insult to Mac owners. Promising 4k60p capture for all, just to find out today that it will NOT capture 4k60p on the Silicon(M) chips but capped at 4k30p like every other capture card... Very sad day indeed...

 

[AaronD]

My experience with AVM hasn't been so good either, for a different reason, probably related.

I use Linux primarily, which has built-in drivers for the vast majority of chips (not manufacturers, but the chips themselves that many of them buy and use) and standards. So if something works on Linux, it usually means that it follows preexisting standards instead of rolling their own.

On Windows, it's hard to see a difference because they all publish drivers for Windows that work, whether it's a rebranded copypasta of a standard driver or one that they wrote in-house. But on systems that they don't take seriously, the difference becomes glaringly obvious. The standard ones still work, and the custom ones don't.

So what happens when Micro$haft decides that the old driver format is a "security risk" and refuses to run them, and the manufacturer doesn't rewrite all of those custom drivers for the new version? Tons of e-waste, when the hardware itself is still perfectly good.

AverMedia seems to be one of the custom brands.

 

[Zolja007]

Yeah seems so. At this point it feels like it was false advertisement. Because they "specd" it out to be 4k60fps CAPTURE. And it won't do that on Mac m/1/2/3... Why in the hell would someone pay $300 instead of $100 for the same performance? It just don't make sense.

 

[AaronD]

...it will NOT capture 4k60p on the Silicon(M) chips but capped at 4k30p like every other capture card...

That specifically, though, might be a limitation of the M_ chips or the operating system that runs on them, not the capture card. Maybe Apple itself is saying "no" to everyone, to avoid a mess of:
"It works for me!"
"It doesn't work for me! I thought Apple was supposed to be reliable!"
Etc.

They do have a sort of "walled garden" approach, where everything in that garden is guaranteed to work smoothly. But the vetting that it takes to make that guarantee, means that there's not a lot in there compared to the rest of the world.

The M_ chips are NOT designed for performance, first and foremost. They're designed for low power. Battery life and all that. Then without sacrificing that, they made them as powerful as they could, which is not really a whole lot.

Does EVERY Mac have this problem? One OS to run on everything, and it's limited to keep the lowest common denominator running smoothly? Or do chips that ARE better optimized for performance regardless of power consumption, do more on MacOS than the new mobile ones do?

 

[Zolja007]

That specifically, though, might be a limitation of the M_ chips or the operating system that runs on them, not the capture card. Maybe Apple itself is saying "no" to everyone, to avoid a mess of:
"It works for me!"
"It doesn't work for me! I thought Apple was supposed to be reliable!"
Etc.

They do have a sort of "walled garden" approach, where everything in that garden is guaranteed to work smoothly. But the vetting that it takes to make that guarantee, means that there's not a lot in there compared to the rest of the world.

The M_ chips are NOT designed for performance, first and foremost. They're designed for low power. Battery life and all that. Then without sacrificing that, they made them as powerful as they could, which is not really a whole lot.

Does EVERY Mac have this problem? One OS to run on everything, and it's limited to keep the lowest common denominator running smoothly? Or do chips that ARE better optimized for performance regardless of power consumption, do more on MacOS than the new mobile ones do?

Yeah that’s what I was thinking too. I did stumble on a site saying due to UVC “limitations” it would crash. And surely finding that out slowly. Thank you for the response!

 

[Zolja007]

After extensive research and being in contact with AVerMedia’s team, MacOS just can’t handle 10gbps…. Still sad… but the product AVerMedia has is insane. Colors, resolution and frame rate is very clean!

Very sad day to see this product not perform... I just saw the "grand" update for MacOS M1/M2/M3 update, and boy what an insult to Mac owners. Promising 4k60p capture for all, just to find out today that it will NOT capture 4k60p on the Silicon(M) chips but capped at 4k30p like every other capture card... Very sad day indeed...

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[gster]

Anyone else getting random video drop outs on their HDMI 2.1 screen (Mine is a LG OLED C148)
The video stays on OBS while the TV drops the signal completely for a second or even 3 sometimes.
Also sometimes when I turn on the PS5 first without switching to that HDMI on the OLED, once I switch sources, the OLED will prompt me with "Invalid Signal"

I have set the proper resolutions in the AverMedia app & the software and firmware are on the latest versions.