Question / Help Armagetron Advanced

flavvaflav · Apr 19, 2013

Alright, I'm trying to stream the game Armagetron Advanced but it turns out awful every time- here's a test video http://www.twitch.tv/flavvaflav/b/392896779 what can I do to make the screen less fuzzy like that? What causes it? Thanks in advance.

hilalpro · Apr 19, 2013

Re: Need some help!

The bitrate is too low for that resolution.
whats your upload speed ?
also post a log if possible viewtopic.php?f=5&t=97

flavvaflav · Apr 19, 2013

Re: Need some help!

I THINK this is the log:

Code:

Open Broadcaster Software v0.472b - 64bit (　^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: AMD Processor model unknown
CPU Speed: 3013MHz
Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 1697MB Free
stepping id: 0, model 10, family 15, type 0, extmodel 8, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 5, total cores 5
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1064005632
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1878616064
Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1280x720
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: MP3
    bitrate: 320
Using graphics capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast FastShuffle SSEMisalign LZCNT
x264: profile High, level 3.2
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1280, height: 720
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 600
    buffer size: 600
    quality: 5
------------------------------------------
using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
bufferTime: 1841, outputRateWindowTime: 1000, dropThreshold: 2341
using memory capture
using memory capture
Total frames rendered: 7097, number of frames that lagged: 61 (0.86%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:43    Avg QP:37.62  size:  4934
x264: frame P:6077  Avg QP:37.61  size:  1271
x264: frame B:928   Avg QP:28.16  size:   237
x264: consecutive B-frames: 79.2%  9.6%  0.4% 10.8%
x264: mb I  I16..4: 86.0% 12.5%  1.5%
x264: mb P  I16..4:  8.7%  1.8%  0.0%  P16..4:  2.9%  0.6%  0.1%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:85.9%
x264: mb B  I16..4:  0.3%  0.0%  0.0%  B16..8:  1.6%  0.2%  0.0%  direct: 0.6%  skip:97.2%  L0:43.5% L1:55.6% BI: 1.0%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:17.0% inter:12.2%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 5.5% 30.8% 9.4% inter: 0.2% 1.3% 0.1%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 58% 34%  7%  1%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu:  4% 10% 79%  1%  1%  1%  1%  0%  2%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 15% 34% 35%  1%  4%  2%  4%  1%  4%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 73% 18%  9%  0%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.1% UV:0.0%
x264: kb/s:547.28
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 8.607 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 54.9%] [unaccounted: 45.1%]
| scene->Preprocess - [0.116%] [avg time: 0.01 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [54.7%] [avg time: 4.712 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 36.7%] [unaccounted: 18%]
| | CopyResource - [0.36%] [avg time: 0.031 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.267%] [avg time: 0.023 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [35.8%] [avg time: 3.082 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.279%] [avg time: 0.024 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================

here's my internet:

what can i do?

hilalpro · Apr 19, 2013

Re: Need some help!

change the audio back to aac 128
change the bitrate/bufsize to 3456

flavvaflav · Apr 28, 2013

Re: Need some help!

Alright, I have another problem that I need a fast fix for because I'm streaming some tournament tonight for this game.

My stream freezes every 5/10 seconds...

Speedtest:

Log:

Code:

Open Broadcaster Software v0.51b - 64bit (　^ω^)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: AMD Processor model unknown
CPU Speed: 3013MHz
Physical Memory:  4095MB Total, 2673MB Free
stepping id: 0, model 10, family 15, type 0, extmodel 8, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 5, total cores 5
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
  Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
  Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1064005632
  Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1878616064
Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-28, 18:11:10===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3456
    buffer size: 3456
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
using memory capture
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
Total frames rendered: 14851, number of frames that lagged: 763 (5.14%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-28, 18:19:44=================================================
------------------------------------------
Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-28, 18:20:01===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: faster
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3456
    buffer size: 3456
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 5222, number of frames that lagged: 949 (18.17%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-28, 18:23:13=================================================
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-28, 18:24:02===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1536x864
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1536, height: 864
    preset: fast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3456
    buffer size: 3456
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 3521, number of frames that lagged: 96 (2.73%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-28, 18:26:03=================================================
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-28, 18:31:42===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 60
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3456
    buffer size: 3456
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
using memory capture
using memory capture
Total frames rendered: 1018, number of frames that lagged: 189 (18.57%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-28, 18:32:05=================================================
------------------------------------------
Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-28, 18:32:15===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: veryfast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3456
    buffer size: 3456
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 596, number of frames that lagged: 1 (0.17%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-28, 18:32:35=================================================
------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------
Using fixed low latency mode, factor 20
=====Stream Start: 2013-04-28, 18:34:16===============================================
  Multithreaded optimizations: On
  Base resolution: 1920x1080
  Output resolution: 1920x1080
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
    bitrate: 128
Using text output
Using graphics capture
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
    fps: 30
    width: 1920, height: 1080
    preset: ultrafast
    CBR: no
    CFR: no
    max bitrate: 3456
    buffer size: 3456
    quality: 10
------------------------------------------
using memory capture
using memory capture
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
  Server selection: rtmp://live-ams.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
using memory capture
using memory capture
using memory capture
Total frames rendered: 6796, number of frames that lagged: 14 (0.21%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to loop exit
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
=====Stream End: 2013-04-28, 18:38:04=================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 13.148 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 67.6%] [unaccounted: 32.4%]
| scene->Preprocess - [0.0304%] [avg time: 0.004 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [67.6%] [avg time: 8.886 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 51%] [unaccounted: 16.6%]
| | CopyResource - [0.38%] [avg time: 0.05 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.951%] [avg time: 0.125 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [49.3%] [avg time: 6.477 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.403%] [avg time: 0.053 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================

dodgepong · Apr 28, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

Does the stream freeze when watching it while you stream? Is that what you mean?

First, check the VOD to make sure it's not happening in the VOD, and then try enabling CBR to see if that helps.

flavvaflav · Apr 28, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

dodgepong said:
Does the stream freeze when watching it while you stream? Is that what you mean?

Yes, also when I'm not watching, confirmed by 3 other people.

First, check the VOD to make sure it's not happening in the VOD, and then try enabling CBR to see if that helps.

VOD?

hilalpro · Apr 28, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

VOD's are the stream videos that twitch keep in your channel. also change the preset back to "veryfast" it's the perfect balance for your stream.
lower the bitrate to 2944 and quality to 6

flavvaflav · Apr 28, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

No, the recorded videos show 0 lag. I'll try what you said, but it's still rather bad!

flavvaflav · Apr 28, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

http://www.twitch.tv/armagetron_advanced/ Doing some tests right now, did everything people said here but still it freezes every few seconds

hilalpro · Apr 28, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

flavvaflav said:
No, the recorded videos show 0 lag. I'll try what you said, but it's still rather bad!

It's not lagging for me watching it live right now. in that case you just have to lower the bitrate/bandwith requirement for your friends/viewers you can also change the ingest server to london and see if that helps.

flavvaflav · Apr 28, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

hilalpro said:
in that case you just have to lower the bitrate/bandwith requirement for your friends/viewers

How do I do that?

Thanks for all the help everyone, it's improved.

dodgepong · Apr 29, 2013

Re: URGENT! pls read new reply

Lower your bit rate in the Encoding settings.

Change your ingest server (Streaming server) in Broadcast settings.

Question / Help Armagetron Advanced

flavvaflav

New Member

hilalpro

Member

flavvaflav

New Member

hilalpro

Member

flavvaflav

New Member

dodgepong

Administrator

flavvaflav

New Member

hilalpro

Member

flavvaflav

New Member

flavvaflav

New Member

hilalpro

Member

flavvaflav

New Member

dodgepong

Administrator