Apex frames dropping like crazy and doesn't feel smooth when streaming.

There are a few possible reasons for this.

1. You have two Monitor Captures pointing at the same monitor. One in Recording, one in Transmission. Delete one and 'add existing' to re-use the existing one. MCs are notorious for poor performance and conflicting with other captures... including other MCs.

2. Your monitors are running mismatched rates. There is a long-standing Windows bug with 3D accelerated applications on multiple monitors at different refresh. Supposedly fixed in the v2004 patch, it did not fix it for everybody. The fix is to run all monitors at the same refresh (so 60hz in your case) or right-click the Preview window in OBS and choose 'disable'.

3. Judder. Your main monitor is running at 144hz, which will not provide a clean pull-down to the 30/60fps streaming framerate. Run the monitor at 120hz so OBS will just take every other frame, instead of 1-2-skip-a-few.

4. AMF. AMF is awful. Truly, there are no words. AMD stopped providing support for it. The main dev maintaining it walked away because it got so bad. Quality is poor, and it uses game-rendering resources for encoding, causing an in-game performance hit. Swap to x264, or swap to an nVidia GPU with NVENC (which has stellar quality, and is a separate part of the GPU *just* for video encoding, with no in-game performance impact).

5. Dropped frames are 100% ALWAYS a network issue. Bear in mind that sites like speedtest.net are worthless for livestreamers. They test PEAK speed, and ignore the minimum-constant speed that livestreaming relies on. It's like jumping and touching the highest spot on a wall that you can, and saying you're that tall. Additionally, those tests are to different servers than the streaming ingest servers, so if your connection to the YouTube ingest is problematic, you can test fine and still have connection issues. Twitch allows bandwidth/quality testing directly to their servers (resulting in the excellent R1ch's Twitch Test tool). Youtube specifically blocks bandwidth testing to their servers in their ToS.

Hope some of this helps, man.
 
FerretBomb said:
There are a few possible reasons for this.

1. You have two Monitor Captures pointing at the same monitor. One in Recording, one in Transmission. Delete one and 'add existing' to re-use the existing one. MCs are notorious for poor performance and conflicting with other captures... including other MCs.

2. Your monitors are running mismatched rates. There is a long-standing Windows bug with 3D accelerated applications on multiple monitors at different refresh. Supposedly fixed in the v2004 patch, it did not fix it for everybody. The fix is to run all monitors at the same refresh (so 60hz in your case) or right-click the Preview window in OBS and choose 'disable'.

3. Judder. Your main monitor is running at 144hz, which will not provide a clean pull-down to the 30/60fps streaming framerate. Run the monitor at 120hz so OBS will just take every other frame, instead of 1-2-skip-a-few.

4. AMF. AMF is awful. Truly, there are no words. AMD stopped providing support for it. The main dev maintaining it walked away because it got so bad. Quality is poor, and it uses game-rendering resources for encoding, causing an in-game performance hit. Swap to x264, or swap to an nVidia GPU with NVENC (which has stellar quality, and is a separate part of the GPU *just* for video encoding, with no in-game performance impact).

5. Dropped frames are 100% ALWAYS a network issue. Bear in mind that sites like speedtest.net are worthless for livestreamers. They test PEAK speed, and ignore the minimum-constant speed that livestreaming relies on. It's like jumping and touching the highest spot on a wall that you can, and saying you're that tall. Additionally, those tests are to different servers than the streaming ingest servers, so if your connection to the YouTube ingest is problematic, you can test fine and still have connection issues. Twitch allows bandwidth/quality testing directly to their servers (resulting in the excellent R1ch's Twitch Test tool). Youtube specifically blocks bandwidth testing to their servers in their ToS.

Hope some of this helps, man.
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Some very helpful information, I used to stream with my CPU before but was told streaming with your GPU was much better, I'll switch back and try and address some of these other issues!
 
Kyameron said:
Some very helpful information, I used to stream with my CPU before but was told streaming with your GPU was much better, I'll switch back and try and address some of these other issues!
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In the case of nVidia cards, it is! The most recent generation (20 and 30-series) output quality equivalent to x264 on the Slow preset, and NVENC is a standalone part of the GPU that just sits idle if you aren't encoding video, so no in-game performance hit. It's rendered 2PC setups effectively pointless.
AMD cards are great if you're just gaming on them. But for the moment, nVidia is essentially the only choice for streamers. Which is especially great with the whole worldwide GPU shortage going on. :/
 
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