Question / Help Any suggestions on how to make stream look better?

FerretBomb

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Post a logfile from the streaming session. We need to see what's going on at the back end, and contains all of your settings.

Already though, 45fps is a bad idea as it's not a full-integer divisor of 60fps. 30, 20, 15, 10, all good. Forget that 48fps hogwash too.
 

dping

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Post a logfile from the streaming session. We need to see what's going on at the back end, and contains all of your settings.

Already though, 45fps is a bad idea as it's not a full-integer divisor of 60fps. 30, 20, 15, 10, all good. Forget that 48fps hogwash too.
48 looks fine in many cases while 45 doesn't look smooth. Anway, this is where we will just have to disagree
 

FerretBomb

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It's a case of someone doubling the 24fps from classic cinema film and passing it off as a good idea. And is complete hogwash.
 

dping

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It's a case of someone doubling the 24fps from classic cinema film and passing it off as a good idea. And is complete hogwash.
not at all. its based on the concept of dropped frames ratio the same way that 30fps works. which is a 1:2 ratio of dropped frames. 48fps is a 1:5 ratio which means 1 out of 5 frames are dropped based on a standard 60Hz monitor. another example is 54fps which is 1:10 radio. anyway, we can just disagree :P

EDIT: and for those like me with a 144Hz monitor, 48fps will still allow a good non decimal ratio. There is a reason why 48fps videos on YT are labelled as 48fps because its actually a thing that works.
 

veclo

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Post a logfile from the streaming session. We need to see what's going on at the back end, and contains all of your settings.

Already though, 45fps is a bad idea as it's not a full-integer divisor of 60fps. 30, 20, 15, 10, all good. Forget that 48fps hogwash too.
https://gist.github.com/490a50bb11b6830684f8
Here are the logs from the stream linked I am playing on a 60hz monitor and I put 45 fps purely because it looked better to me than 60, even though I mainly stream CSGO and 60fps would be prefered if possible.
 

dping

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https://gist.github.com/490a50bb11b6830684f8
Here are the logs from the stream linked I am playing on a 60hz monitor and I put 45 fps purely because it looked better to me than 60, even though I mainly stream CSGO and 60fps would be prefered if possible.
you are sitting a little high on the duplicate frames (needs to stay well under 1%) and you are having encoder lag (this should show 0%). this is mainly because you have a mid to low end i5 and playing a CPU intensive game.

720@30 would be recommended for that reason and also because your bitrate will look much less pixellated at 720@30.

Code:
15:54:16: Total frames encoded: 509348, total frames duplicated: 6721 (1.32%)
15:54:16: Number of frames skipped due to encoder lag: 696 (0.14%)
 

veclo

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I don't know about all that just that I checked my processes during stream and CPU was at 60%(ingame) so I figured i could squeeze some more frames there. Or maybe there is a way to use my fiber internet to supplement the weaker CPU, maybe with the CPU preset setting somehow?
 

dping

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I don't know about all that just that I checked my processes during stream and CPU was at 60%(ingame) so I figured i could squeeze some more frames there. Or maybe there is a way to use my fiber internet to supplement the weaker CPU, maybe with the CPU preset setting somehow?
Its best not to raise bitrate above 2500 at max because you will lose viewers who might or might not buffer (on their end) and then whats the point in streaming with lost viewers! Anyway, I would leave it as is for now. I bet it looks good. as for 720@30, you could try and see if you have some more room as in the preset. change your preset to faster or fast but leave it at 720@30. this will raise the quality at the current bitrate. note that if you start lagging in game, or your duplicate frames start to get close to 1% then put the preset back where you had it before.
 

veclo

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right now im trying out downscaled to 960x540 60fps and 2000 bitrate and it looks kinda ok,It just messes up my UI ingame but I don't know why. I've tried multiple settings and even though it's a bit more blurry 60 fps is the way to go for CS:GO(or any fps i guess). I will mess with the cpu preset tomorrow and see what I can do.
 

dping

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right now im trying out downscaled to 960x540 60fps and 2000 bitrate and it looks kinda ok,It just messes up my UI ingame but I don't know why. I've tried multiple settings and even though it's a bit more blurry 60 fps is the way to go for CS:GO(or any fps i guess). I will mess with the cpu preset tomorrow and see what I can do.
once you hit that 60fps, you really cant do much with presets. 540@60 would look really good at 2500 imo and no need to drop preset.
 

veclo

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im afraid that 2500 would be too much for some viewers, is there much difference between 2000 and 2500?
 
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