Question / Help Adjustment of two studio microphones

Hello Hello ...
Would anyone advise me how to set up two studio microphones?

Why two microphones? For guests!

I have two microphones: Behringer C-1U
I have VoiceMeeter Banana installed

I connect the microphones to the PC via USB
In VoiceMeeter, I set everything up and the microphones work.

The problem is that in the setting in which it got me a friend on Discordu reports that he hears an echo from me.
I even tried to set the microphones so that the right one went only to the right channel and the left one went to the left. Then I tried to set both to mono.

So how do you usually do this when I want to invite guests and you want your own microphone?
 

carlmmii

Active Member
Not an OBS question, but...

The problem is in how the audio devices are being combined into the same channel. As soon as you move past the usb cable, you're working with software to do all of the audio conversion. Part of it is windows, part of it is voicemeeter, part of it is VAC (which voicemeeter uses for its virtual cables). There are a lot of different parts of the chain that could be going out of sync between the two mics.

Ideally, in order to eliminate any kind of timing issues you would combine the mics with a mixer first, then send that into windows. However, that's not possible since you're using USB mics.

The best you can do is probably just use window's own "Listen to this device on..." setting within the recording device properties. You should have a virtual cable ready to be used from your voicemeeter installation -- just set both mics to be listened to on your virtual cable, and that should reduce as much latency difference as possible.

Past that, the best way to deal with any kind of timing difference is to just reduce the signal to noise ratio -- get the mic as close as possible to who's actually using it, so that less of the other person comes over when it's leveled. It won't do anything for the actual timing disparity, but it will make the effect less noticeable.
 

koala

Active Member
Are you and your guests in the same room? You have to make sure your voice is picked up by your mic only, and the voice of your guests is picked up by the guest mic only. This seems obvious, but is difficult to accomplish, if you are too near to your guests.

To check what is picked up by each mic, configure them directly as sources in OBS without Voicemeeter in between. Activate 2 tracks for audio recording in Settings->Output->Recording. In Edit->Advanced Audio Properties make it so that your mic source goes to track 1 only and the guest mic source goes to track 2.
Now record some test footage, where you use both mics.

Then load the video with a media player that is capable of switching audio tracks for output. For example VLC or Media Player Classic. Load the video and switch to audio track 1 and listen to what you hear. This is what your mic picked up. You should hear only yourself and no guests. Then switch to audio track 2 and again listen to the video. This is what the guest mic picked up at the same time. You should hear only the guests and not yourself.

If you hear both in one or both of the tracks, you have to make sure the mic will not pick up the unwanted audio.
For example, you can put your the mic as near to your mouth as possible, so the guests are so quiet in comparison to your voice, so they appear silent.
For the guests, use a microphone with a directed recording pattern that only records what is in front of it, not behind it. Then make sure you are always behind the guest mic, so it will never record your voice.
 
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