2 PC Setup - Frame Skips / Stutter on BOTH PC's! (Another for the Pile).

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Hello all! Yes, another for the pile of people experiencing this one here. I've been through all the threads relating to this issue and I feel like I've tried everything. I'm finally adding my information and another cry for help to the pile in a vain hope someone might spot something I missed, or provide a solution to this frustrating problem i/we have tried to remedy for such a long time now. I'm a gaming creator, and this is really impacting my ability to stream and/or record usable footage.

The Problem is exactly THIS:
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TestUFO: Stutter

Animation on Blur Busters UFO Motion Tests for testing displays and monitors.
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You can see it in this clip on stream, though it is slightly harder to notice on stream due to quality restrictions and this was the best one i could catch for you guys: https://clips.twitch.tv/PreciousSeductiveShrewDoggo-50cTIkHXoj-g256N

Capture on BOTH PC's - whether recording via OBS on my gaming rig solo, or capturing my gaming rig screen via an Avermedia capture card on a completely separate rig (my streaming rig/2nd PC), both produce the same result - frame skips/capture stutter intermittently throughout the entire recording/stream session, with otherwise smooth recording in between. The stutters and frame skips are also visible in the preview window. The fact this is happening on my gaming rig AND streaming rig, both PC's, suggests OBS is the culprit in some way.

Both PC's are on fresh OS installs. Both OBS 'scenes' have been built fresh from the ground up. Have tried completely empty scenes etc, with nothing else going on. All games are running in locked 60 FPS via Nvidia Control Panel and when it helps, Vsync is on in-game to remove tearing. Gaming monitor is running at 120hz, every other monitor, 1 additional on gaming rig, 2 on streaming rig, are at 60hz.

I'm hoping someone can spot something in the log files, because i feel like I've tried every-which combination of settings to no avail. If anyone has any answers or can shed some light, I would greatly appreciate it! Maybe I missed something simple, or haven't tried something yet.

I've attached logs from gaming rig recording + streaming rig stream session (which are big/long) in a zip. Both were running simultaneously, though running either separately makes no difference. If anyone wants anything else, please let me know.

Thanks for readin'!

SPECS:
Stream PC:
Win 10 / OBS on NVME SSD.
1080 GTX GPU
3600x AMD CPU
16GB RAM
X470 Gaming Pro MOBO

Gaming PC:
Win 10 / OBS on NVME SSD.
3090 RTX
5800X3D AMD CPU
32 GB RAM
B450 Tomahawk Plus Mobo
 

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I'm actually getting ready to update the BIOS on my Asus Z690. I updated the Chipset, LAN, Serial I/O, Audio, RST & MEI drivers yesterday. Now I just need to take a few hours to step through roughly 8 BIOS updates to get caught up.
 
Hey Rockbottom, thank you for the interest and feedback! When i wiped both computers roughly 5 weeks ago, i flashed the BIOS' to the latest on both! I had to do this, because the CPU would not work otherwise. Unfortunately, not a solution! But thanks for trying.
 
Well that's a bummer. Still think there's something wrong, might be worth starting some dialogue with AMD support & informing them that you have updated to the latest BIOS & are still experiencing issues.
 
Well, the programs run fine! My gameplay is crystal smooth. There's nothing wrong with the way both computers run. It's simply the capture/preview in OBS, that is letting me down. As far as i can tell, it's a similar issue a large amount of OBS users are experiencing and struggling to find a fix for. I was just throwing my two cents in, with the hope that my system and setup, and the fact its happening across two PC's, on my gaming rig AND using a separate rig via capture card, might help provide some new insight/answers.
 
I stated above, I refuse to unzip your file so I haven't looked at your logs. But, based on what you have written above & what I have noticed with my system, just having that single monitor @ 120HZ with the others @ 60HZ could be causing your pain.

Or there may be several adjustments that are needed. You just need to continue troubleshooting.
 
It *could* be the 120/60 difference, it shouldn't, but i will try it for tomorrow. Pretty tragic if that's the case, as I'd been running 120 / 60 for years prior to getting this pain in the neck that i just can't seem to beat. I can say this intermittent stutter had happened in the past, but i beat it with some common changes to capture card/output settings quite easily. I've never had to juggle so many other nuances, like frame rate capping games (just always used Vsync) and capping my cap-card's frame rate, etc. This has become unbeatable since formatting both PC's and updating BIOSes, and with it, the latest version of OBS and/or perhaps a combination of windows updates too.

RE: The logs, i don't know what else i can do with these. They're "too big to upload". Is there a format you'd prefer me to provide them on/with? I'm not 100% sure what i should be looking for in the logs and the answer could be within! Thanks for the help so far.

The other thing to note is that this is happening *on my gaming rig* as well, where there shouldn't be any strange differentials causing the stutter. I've tested with a pure clean OBS scene with nothing but game-capture, capped frames with the same results.
 
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I also have a 3090, setting Texture Quality above Quality with 60FFS can induce stuttering. See if Performance or even HP make a difference.

V-sync on set to fast. Monitor Technology Fixed

I don't want them, create new.
 
Hags all disabled first thing! And I've tried those settings above before, no dice! Its painful.

I've just been running some tests again tonight, and i had this theory before, that the stutter is somehow related to ALT-TABBING on the gaming rig. Had a smooth butter preview/recording going on the stream rig capturing the game rig, i alt-tabbed on the game rig, ran through some directories to do something, after going back into the game, the same recording (and the OBS preview screen) start exhibiting the stuttering issue. I've noticed this before, but can't believe this is the problem, especially considering the capture is being managed by the capture card.

Also seems to be quite reproducible, though sometimes random how long the stuttering lasts, whether its temporary or permanent until another alt-tab.

Remembered this was an issue a long time ago, disabled min/maximizing animations etc when alt-tabbing, didn't fix the problem. (This was an old Aero effect that used to create this problem, but when i was just single PC. In any case, that isnt whats causing it, though alt-tabbing does still seem to trigger it).
 
In light of this and before i sign off for the night, i have tried this:
Adjust Desktop Size + Position > GPU Scaling ON for all > Override Scaling Mode Set By Games and Programs on Main Monitor.

This... Might... Have done something. But I'll check tomorrow, as these things always take a dump the next day.
 
ITS impossible to stream with anything out there,something is wrong with g-sync and obs and high frames,its 2023 and this is like a big problem still,its so discusting srry but it is that i have stop streaming,why im gonna low my fps and etc,just beacouse a stupid streaming program? so i buy a 144 fps to play in 60? what a stupid thiung...theres nobody SMART enough to fix this? wow loool streaming with obs gonna make u psichotic lol is so bad so bad
 
its been 2 weeks i even format the pc,im a technician to ,and i see the problem but the only way to fix is OBS WORK WITH NVIDIA,even xsplit or prism makes stuttering etc...only in 60 fps...WE ARE IN 2012 GUYS COMMON!! we got monitors now with 500hz WTF?
 
Yeah OK. Elon is doing better than you. 2 weeks & you haven't figured out that G-Sync needs to be disabled when using OBS, at least his rocket made it off the launch pad.
 
so why du u buy and have g-sync to smooth fps etc? why? i know that about a year ago,the 60 fps , im just stupid with the lack of interest from obs to fix this,just make things work the tecnology is here,2023,g-sync is a must!! to have ,so i will get rid all of that smoothness and stay with fixed refresh rate or half refresh rate that make u motion sickness? just beacouse u want to stream and nobody not even prism or xslpit knows how to du it? nope i will play 144 hz,have a good time and du not think in streaming until some god in form of people get this figure out lol,i already have this working but...after days will be total useless will start to stutter etc... problem is windows and capturing ,nobody knows,some with the disease off streaming play 60 fps and they spend undred of dollars in high refresh rate monitors are this ok? for me its the end of the line im tired and im not alone in this...,i know its FREE but this is like u are sick someone offers u the medicine and with full joy ,but u dont get better so whats the POINT?
 
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