Question / Help 144hz Monitor Cloning Lag [2 PC SETUP]

[lifewithstrife]

Hey everyone :)

Today my 144hz monitor arrived and it's absolutely AMAZING I love it. I've read a few 'how to' guides and when I try to play at 144hz at the same time as cloning the monitor to my capture card (Avermedia Pro Gamer HD) it results in a really frustrating stutter in game.

Is there anything I can do to fix this performance hit that still allows me to play at 144hz?

Other info:
- All my other monitors are 60hz, including my streaming monitor.
- I mostly play Team Fortress 2 and stream at http://www.twitch.tv/lifewithstrife if relevant.
- The monitor is an Asus VG248QE

Gaming PC:

• CPU: Intel Core i7 960 @ 3.20GHz
• Motherboard: Asus P6X58D-E
• Ram: 12.0GB Triple-Channel DDR3
• Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 (EVGA) 3GB
• Memory: 450GB INTEL SSD & 2TB HD

Streaming PC:

• CPU: Intel Core i5 4690 @ 3.50GHz
• Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H LGA1150
• Ram: 8GB Single-Channel DDR3
• Video Card: None
• Memory: 120GB SSD
• Capture Card: Avermedia Live Gamer HD

Thanks,
Strife.

 

[AndehX]

instead of cloning your monitor to the Live Gamer HD. Extend to it instead. Then open OBS on it, disable encoding while previewing, and add the game to it. Then fullscreen OBS. This should allow you to keep your primary monitor at 144hz
Thats what I used to do when I streamed through my laptop

 

[Jack0r]

Hmm, so if I read your post correct, you got the 60hz to your LG HD and 144hz output to your monitor at the same time working, but as soon as you do that the game is stuttering for you? Or only on the recordin?
AndehX`s option would be a way, but it would of course be much nicer to be able to capture the screen directly. Those 120/144hz Monitors are unfortunately still something that only a very small amount of users got, and even a smaller amount of streamers :/

 

[AndehX]

Its the only method I can think of keeping 144hz on the primary monitor. I could never figure out a way of cloning my primary to my capture device, without crippling my refresh rate down to 60hz :/

 

[lifewithstrife]

Hmm, so if I read your post correct, you got the 60hz to your LG HD and 144hz output to your monitor at the same time working, but as soon as you do that the game is stuttering for you? Or only on the recordin?
AndehX`s option would be a way, but it would of course be much nicer to be able to capture the screen directly. Those 120/144hz Monitors are unfortunately still something that only a very small amount of users got, and even a smaller amount of streamers :/

Thanks for the help as always Jack0r, the stutter issues were in the game not with the recording. I've tried AndehX's option and it still makes me stutter/lag.

Its the only method I can think of keeping 144hz on the primary monitor. I could never figure out a way of cloning my primary to my capture device, without crippling my refresh rate down to 60hz :/

Thanks for the suggestion but sadly I still had issues. I appreciate the help nonetheless :).

 

[lifewithstrife]

Just an update - it seems that the stutter issues disappeared after I ran the 144hz monitor alone, and disconeccted my two 60hz ones.

It's a bit of an annoyance as I could do with the extra space to alt-tab and change music, look on chrome and stuff. But I guess for now I'll have to adapt and remember that the viewers can see all I do on my gaming desktop.

Thanks to Jack0r and AndehX for trying to help.

 

[Danlillibridge]

Just an update - it seems that the stutter issues disappeared after I ran the 144hz monitor alone, and disconeccted my two 60hz ones.

It's a bit of an annoyance as I could do with the extra space to alt-tab and change music, look on chrome and stuff. But I guess for now I'll have to adapt and remember that the viewers can see all I do on my gaming desktop.

Thanks to Jack0r and AndehX for trying to help.

lifewithstrife, You can use a program called Synergy to potentially help you utilize the extra monitor space. You would hook your monitor up to your streaming PC, install Synergy server on your main PC with the 144hz monitor, and then install Synergy Client on your streaming PC.

You can then use the mouse/keyboard from your gaming PC to scroll straight across as if the extra monitor was extended. I can confirm it works very well, and uses next to ZERO resources. I was seriously expecting to experience buggy performance and or delay in communication when moving to the 2nd monitor this way, but was amazed that it was smooth/quick, and seamless.

A few caveats to consider, the mouse/keyboard can slide right on over no problem, but they are effectively communicating with the secondary streaming PC when on that monitor, this means that music programs, web browsers, etc. Are not able to drag from screen to screen.

Synergy, by default hotkeys ScrollLock button to (lock) the mouse cursor on a particular monitor if you don't want it sliding from one to the other, I used my mouse software to bind ScrollLock to my side mouse button and this works well for quickly unlocking my cursor from gaming monitor to slide over to secondary monitor if I want to change a song or something else.

When streaming, I use my secondary PC (and monitor) to open up stream chat and my music on Winamp. To get the music from my secondary PC to my main PC, I use a standard AUX cable running from the green port in my secondary PC to my Line IN port on my gaming PC, then its a matter of going to:

Sound Recording devices > Right click Line in > Properties > Check Listen to this Device.
Then just open up Volume Mixer to get the volume just right.


Bottom line for me is Windows 10 has this issue when using a 144hz AND any other monitor that is not the same refresh rate. I tried extending, cloning, you name it. All caused my 144hz monitor to stutter / lag like it was 30hz, despite reporting 144hz in all settings. The Synergy program was a life saver, until this issue is fixed.

This issue is currently being discussed here as well: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ows-10-with-clone-display-for-game-capture/1/

Sorry for the long winded Post, but I did have one more question for you. I tried a capture card in my 2nd PC to use it for streaming. However, I ran into the same problems with the stutter / lag on my 144hz gaming monitor as soon as I ran HDMI to my capture card. Its only capable of 60 fps Capture, and thus reports like a 60hz monitor when hooked up to my gaming PC, clone, or extend. How did you overcome this issue? To reference the capture card I tried was the
Elgato HD60 Pro internal.

This issue has caused me to continue using my main PC for encoding / streaming, while I use my 2nd PC for the extra monitor usage and offset music, web browsers etc while streaming. Any ideas?