Which mac for 4K/60

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topox11

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Hello, I want to change my streamings to 4k/60 and I would appreciate your help to know which mac to buy.
I'm currently streaming with a Macbook pro M1 - 16gb at 1080/60 and it works perfectly but with 4K/60 it can't.
I plan to buy a Mac studio M2 Max base, can someone confirm that it can with this resolution without a problem or if it would be better to opt for another more powerful configuration.
My streamings are live sports with replays, basically soccer.
Thanks for your advice.
 
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Talonis

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I was going to say "Do you need 4K60?" then read further and saw you're dealing with sports – so absolutely understandable.

I might suggest two possible options:

1) Get the best you can afford (ouch).
2) Get something lower spec, test it and return it if needs be.

I would also suggest doing a severe audit of your OBS setup and seeing what can be cut (non-essential plugins) and optimising workflow etc. By doing that I was able to stream (for example) at 1080p60 on a MacBook Air M1 with green screen and a few essential plugins quite easily. Doing the same for 4K60 will of course be more of a challenge.

– and you can never have enough RAM...
 
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topox11

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First of all thank you for your answer, although it has not cleared any of my doubts.

In the end I decided on your second option, try it and if I don't like it, return it.
I'm going to order Mac Studio M2 MAX but with 64 gb of ram.

When I can try it I will tell you my experience.
Greetings
 
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Talonis

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For my setup I eventually removed any issues with encoding by offloading to an external encoder box that handles 4K60 live encoding, recording and multi-streaming simultaneously. This means the encoding stays constant, so I can use pretty much any machine for OBS (Mac, PC etc.) at much lower specs.
 
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Talonis

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Sure.

Epiphan Pearl.

[Edit: I will correct myself. Currently the Pearl will only do 1440p60 or 4K30 – so likely wouldn't be useful to your 4K60 requirements.]
 
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topox11 said:
Hello, I want to change my streamings to 4k/60 and I would appreciate your help to know which mac to buy.
I'm currently streaming with a Macbook pro M1 - 16gb at 1080/60 and it works perfectly but with 4K/60 it can't.
I plan to buy a Mac studio M2 Max base, can someone confirm that it can with this resolution without a problem or if it would be better to opt for another more powerful configuration.
My streamings are live sports with replays, basically soccer.
Thanks for your advice.
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can you share what settings you use for OBS recording at 1080p/60?
 
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topox11

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DQ93 said:
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can you share what settings you use for OBS recording at 1080p/60?
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Hello, for me the main thing is to choose the HEVC codec and adjust the bitrate according to the type of broadcast you make, games, sports...
For me the problem is Youtube, in H264 and the RTMPS protocol I do not get the desired quality.
With HEVC and the HLS protocol and with a 4k or 1440 transmission key, even though it is broadcasting at 1080, it is how I get the best quality.

One of my broadcasts: Soccer match

Greetings
 
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topox11

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I already have my Mac Studio and I can confirm that it can handle 4K/60 without problems.
I still need to do more tests to adjust a little more but the Mac Studio with the HEVC codec has no problems
One of my tests: Soccer match test

Greetings
 
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KalleGrabowski

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topox11 said:
I already have my Mac Studio and I can confirm that it can handle 4K/60 without problems.
I still need to do more tests to adjust a little more but the Mac Studio with the HEVC codec has no problems
One of my tests: Soccer match test

Greetings
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What capture card are you using for 4k60?
The only solutions for macs that I know is a BMD Ultra Studio 4K Mini, but I would like to test the result and if it is that much better than 1440p60 before shelling out 1100,- Euros.
 
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topox11

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KalleGrabowski said:
What capture card are you using for 4k60?
The only solutions for macs that I know is a BMD Ultra Studio 4K Mini, but I would like to test the result and if it is that much better than 1440p60 before shelling out 1100,- Euros.
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Hello, I use the Kiloview U40, although I am not 100x100 satisfied with it. I bought it because I found an offer for €300.
I would like to try the one you mention but at the moment it cannot be.
Greetings
 
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KalleGrabowski

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topox11 said:
Hello, I use the Kiloview U40, although I am not 100x100 satisfied with it. I bought it because I found an offer for €300.
I would like to try the one you mention but at the moment it cannot be.
Greetings
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Can you comment on the things you dislike?
BTW my camera, a GH5M2, should be able to send 4k60 via rtsp, but that has not been without hiccups in combination with my M1 and M2 Macs unfortunately.
 
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KalleGrabowski

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topox11 said:
Hello, I use the Kiloview U40, although I am not 100x100 satisfied with it. I bought it because I found an offer for €300.
I would like to try the one you mention but at the moment it cannot be.
Greetings
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I just read in a different thread that there seems to be a problem with output via Decklink cards with OBS newer than 28.1.2 so be aware that the Ultra Studio 4K Mini may not work for output until that bug is resolved.
 
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AJ CoRe TV

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Hello, i have a new elgato 4K X hdmi 2.1 card… but when I try to record 4k60 from ps5 to my M1 Pro chip MB, I get encoder overload… I tried Apple VT HEVC hardware encoder, etc. but I get overload error & laggy playback…… only works if I use apple pro res encoder, but then 1min file will be 8gb! What encoder are you guys using for 4k60 capture??
 
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topox11

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Hello, this is my hardware and my settings.

Mac Studio M2 MAX (64GB, 38 GPU)
Capture: Blackmagic UltraStudio 4K Mini

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AJ CoRe TV said:
Hello, i have a new elgato 4K X hdmi 2.1 card… but when I try to record 4k60 from ps5 to my M1 Pro chip MB, I get encoder overload… I tried Apple VT HEVC hardware encoder, etc. but I get overload error & laggy playback…… only works if I use apple pro res encoder, but then 1min file will be 8gb! What encoder are you guys using for 4k60 capture??
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Hey,
I'm also using 4K X with a M1 16GB RAM MacBook Air. I'm using the cable, which has USB 3.2 Gen2 powered with 4K X. You should check the type C cable you are using to connect both devices.
 
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AJ CoRe TV

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Banda_Streaming said:
Hey,
I'm also using 4K X with a M1 16GB RAM MacBook Air. I'm using the cable, which has USB 3.2 Gen2 powered with 4K X. You should check the type C cable you are using to connect both devices.
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i upgraded to M4Pro and still same issue, using the cables that came with Elgato 4k X... WTF
 
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