Question / Help Which is better for Performance & Quality?

Alpha_Slone

New Member
I own 2 Pc's:
Gaming-
I7 8700k
GTX 1080

Streaming-
AMD FX-8350
GTX 1080
Elgato HD60S Capture Card

I am experiencing grainy Gameplay on 1080 60p
SPEEDTEST DURING STREAM: 652 Download/ 22 Upload.
I stream to Twitch.

I have been battling this issue for a few weeks now.
Should I move back to 1 PC?
Whoever can help me Would take weight off of my shoulders 10 fold.

Thank you!!
( I will be watching this post intently)
 
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shinhito

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You're most likely getting grainy footage because Twitch's Bitrate limit for non-Partners is 6000kbps which makes for pretty low-quality 1080p60fps footage. Bumping your resolution down to 720p (or 900p if you really want to), would most likely make things look better. Keep in mind most people watch on their mobile devices and 720p60fps actually tends to look better at the 6000kbps Twitch limit.

But you didn't post what encoder you're using (x264 or NVENC) or Bitrate so I can't definitively say. You also list a capture card, are you feeding your gaming PC into the HD60S or are you using it to capture console?

From the PC specs, it really depends on what you want to do. The GTX 1080s could handle using NVENC either using 1PC or 2PC setup. The i7 8700k is the more powerful CPU out of the two, so it just depends on if you want better gaming performance or better video quality. It would help to know what games you're streaming to give you a better suggestion.

If it were me, I would probably use the i7 8700k/GTX 1080 as my Streaming PC and the AMD FX-8350/GTX 1080 as my Gaming PC, but making sure that the Streaming PC is ONLY doing the encoding. That means in OBS on the Gaming PC have the webcam and any overlays or graphics on that PC, and then feed that into the capture card on the Streaming PC. On the streaming PC use x264 encoding with the 'CPU Usage Preset' set to as high as it will go without dropping/lagging frames (probably 'faster' or 'fast' preset) and set the 'Output (scaled) Resolution' to 720p or 900p. Then set the rest of the settings (ie. your bitrate, keyframe interval) according to Twitch's Requirements.

That should get yourself in a better place. But make sure to update us on what games you stream, what bitrate you were using, and if you are indeed using the capture card for capturing the gaming PC! Once you do that, then people can give you some more personalized suggestions!
 

Alpha_Slone

New Member
I appreciate your detailed response.
NVENC (NEW) on my Streaming PC.
Bitrate: 6000.
I Play/Stream COD:MW, PUBG, JUMP KING.

I am currently feeding my Gaming PC via HDMI into my streaming PC's Capture Card.
 

NinjAsylum

New Member
You're most likely getting grainy footage because Twitch's Bitrate limit for non-Partners is 6000kbps which makes for pretty low-quality 1080p60fps footage. Bumping your resolution down to 720p (or 900p if you really want to), would most likely make things look better. Keep in mind most people watch on their mobile devices and 720p60fps actually tends to look better at the 6000kbps Twitch limit.

But you didn't post what encoder you're using (x264 or NVENC) or Bitrate so I can't definitively say. You also list a capture card, are you feeding your gaming PC into the HD60S or are you using it to capture console?

From the PC specs, it really depends on what you want to do. The GTX 1080s could handle using NVENC either using 1PC or 2PC setup. The i7 8700k is the more powerful CPU out of the two, so it just depends on if you want better gaming performance or better video quality. It would help to know what games you're streaming to give you a better suggestion.

If it were me, I would probably use the i7 8700k/GTX 1080 as my Streaming PC and the AMD FX-8350/GTX 1080 as my Gaming PC, but making sure that the Streaming PC is ONLY doing the encoding. That means in OBS on the Gaming PC have the webcam and any overlays or graphics on that PC, and then feed that into the capture card on the Streaming PC. On the streaming PC use x264 encoding with the 'CPU Usage Preset' set to as high as it will go without dropping/lagging frames (probably 'faster' or 'fast' preset) and set the 'Output (scaled) Resolution' to 720p or 900p. Then set the rest of the settings (ie. your bitrate, keyframe interval) according to Twitch's Requirements.

That should get yourself in a better place. But make sure to update us on what games you stream, what bitrate you were using, and if you are indeed using the capture card for capturing the gaming PC! Once you do that, then people can give you some more personalized suggestions!
6000kbps is the limit for ALL Twitch streamers. Partners, Affiliates, and that dude that has streamed once since 2015. Doesnt matter whether you're a partner. 6000 is Twitches limit.
 
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