[UPDATE 28.0.3 VERSION] Bad Performance open OBS:

ZeDfriT

New Member
Good evening community. I don't know what's going on, but clearly with the latest OBS update, everything is falling apart.

I'm sorry if my English is not the best, it's not my native lenguaje.

Specs:
  • i7 11800H
  • RAM: 16GB DDR4 @ 3200
  • RTX 3080 8GB
  • Disk M.2 1TB
I do not understand what is happening, but directly when opening the application (not starting the transmission) I have a loss of FPS (around 300) in all games.

I attach photos of the benchmarks in this case, CSGO.

OPEN OBS (288 AVG or less)
CLOSED OBS (+500 AVG FPS)


I use Windows 10, I have all the updates up to date. Clearly this is being caused by your software.

It was also tested on the following games:
League of Legends
Valorant

Etc

I AM WAITING FOR A RESPONSE FROM THE TECHNICIANS, I CANNOT PERFORM DIRECT.
 

.norman.

Member
let me start by saying that i am not part of the obs team in anyway so there is a chance i do not know what i am talking about, but...

the same GPU that is being used in the game is the same one being used in OBS. It stands to reason that if you are gaming and asking the GPU to encode the video in OBS then there is going to be a performance hit. I do not know how much of a performance hit it would be, but i suspect it would be more than a minor impact.

(i am not a gamer, i am more a tech guy)
 

ZeDfriT

New Member
let me start by saying that i am not part of the obs team in anyway so there is a chance i do not know what i am talking about, but...

the same GPU that is being used in the game is the same one being used in OBS. It stands to reason that if you are gaming and asking the GPU to encode the video in OBS then there is going to be a performance hit. I do not know how much of a performance hit it would be, but i suspect it would be more than a minor impact.

(i am not a gamer, i am more a tech guy)
RESOLVED. DOWNLOAD AN OLD VERSION OF OBS.
25.0.8 to test, and indeed it works great! Clearly the last update they did touched something and it broke.
 

Lawrence_SoCal

Active Member
If someone setup/optimized a car for the racetrack, then complained about going slower and getting worse fuel mileage after adding a 10 meter fully loaded trailer to the car, how would you respond? .. sorry, but your question about game frame rates is equivalent to this car analogy
Starting OBS causing game frame rate drop... common, almost expected, especially depending on settings and power of PC. You need to have plenty of spare resources to not have an impact. And different games, using different rendering engines can have different PC resource demands.
Users of free, open-source software take upon themselves the burden of understanding software. Opening OBS to scene that has real-time rendering of video (regardless if streaming and/or recording) will have system resource impact. How much impact depends on Operating System, OBS settings and power of the computer.
real-time video rendering is computationally demanding. OBS is a complex, powerful and flexible software package that can easily be configured in a manner that will bring a US$10,000 workstation to its knees. So, you need to know what you are doing, what is reasonable to expect, and how to balance resource demands (CPU, GPU, RAM, Disk and network I/O, etc). And then how screen refresh rates and streaming/recording frame rates interplay. Not understanding the above, is the equivalent of saying 'hey, when I drive, I keep crashing into brick walls, how do I fix that?' and the response being to 'take off your blindfold'.
Is OBS the lowest resource impact tool available? No. certainly not by default. It one has an under-powered system, and want the simplest of outputs (no overlays, filters, effects, etc) then OBS might not be the right tool. Or one needs to balance Operating System and OBS settings/operation to match resource capability with demands. If you fully optimize and max out your PC for game frame rate, then there is nothing left for the near-equal demand of real-time video encoding (OBS or other)
 

ZeDfriT

New Member
If someone setup/optimized a car for the racetrack, then complained about going slower and getting worse fuel mileage after adding a 10 meter fully loaded trailer to the car, how would you respond? .. sorry, but your question about game frame rates is equivalent to this car analogy
Starting OBS causing game frame rate drop... common, almost expected, especially depending on settings and power of PC. You need to have plenty of spare resources to not have an impact. And different games, using different rendering engines can have different PC resource demands.
Users of free, open-source software take upon themselves the burden of understanding software. Opening OBS to scene that has real-time rendering of video (regardless if streaming and/or recording) will have system resource impact. How much impact depends on Operating System, OBS settings and power of the computer.
real-time video rendering is computationally demanding. OBS is a complex, powerful and flexible software package that can easily be configured in a manner that will bring a US$10,000 workstation to its knees. So, you need to know what you are doing, what is reasonable to expect, and how to balance resource demands (CPU, GPU, RAM, Disk and network I/O, etc). And then how screen refresh rates and streaming/recording frame rates interplay. Not understanding the above, is the equivalent of saying 'hey, when I drive, I keep crashing into brick walls, how do I fix that?' and the response being to 'take off your blindfold'.
Is OBS the lowest resource impact tool available? No. certainly not by default. It one has an under-powered system, and want the simplest of outputs (no overlays, filters, effects, etc) then OBS might not be the right tool. Or one needs to balance Operating System and OBS settings/operation to match resource capability with demands. If you fully optimize and max out your PC for game frame rate, then there is nothing left for the near-equal demand of real-time video encoding (OBS or other)
I did not understand your point, you did not give any solution to the problem. I put that I have a 3080 8GB graphics card among other components, not a mediocre PC, so before talking any idiots, save the comment.

Basically the software just by opening it consumes half of the resources in games. What kind of justification is that?

Obviously, developing something like OBS is extremely complex, and I'm not saying it's easy, but before it consumed 30-60 fps and now it takes more than 100. So, what are you talking about?
 

ZeDfriT

New Member
If someone setup/optimized a car for the racetrack, then complained about going slower and getting worse fuel mileage after adding a 10 meter fully loaded trailer to the car, how would you respond? .. sorry, but your question about game frame rates is equivalent to this car analogy
Starting OBS causing game frame rate drop... common, almost expected, especially depending on settings and power of PC. You need to have plenty of spare resources to not have an impact. And different games, using different rendering engines can have different PC resource demands.
Users of free, open-source software take upon themselves the burden of understanding software. Opening OBS to scene that has real-time rendering of video (regardless if streaming and/or recording) will have system resource impact. How much impact depends on Operating System, OBS settings and power of the computer.
real-time video rendering is computationally demanding. OBS is a complex, powerful and flexible software package that can easily be configured in a manner that will bring a US$10,000 workstation to its knees. So, you need to know what you are doing, what is reasonable to expect, and how to balance resource demands (CPU, GPU, RAM, Disk and network I/O, etc). And then how screen refresh rates and streaming/recording frame rates interplay. Not understanding the above, is the equivalent of saying 'hey, when I drive, I keep crashing into brick walls, how do I fix that?' and the response being to 'take off your blindfold'.
Is OBS the lowest resource impact tool available? No. certainly not by default. It one has an under-powered system, and want the simplest of outputs (no overlays, filters, effects, etc) then OBS might not be the right tool. Or one needs to balance Operating System and OBS settings/operation to match resource capability with demands. If you fully optimize and max out your PC for game frame rate, then there is nothing left for the near-equal demand of real-time video encoding (OBS or other)


Example

What's more, I'm attaching a video where you can clearly see how it goes at 100-150 frames per second, while, when I don't have OBS open, it basically works around 350-450 frames.

I want you to tell me where you see an overloaded scene, the only thing I have is a camera.
 

Lawrence_SoCal

Active Member
It is unfortunate you didn't follow/understand the analogy. Maybe indicate your native language so someone who knows that language can provide a more direct response?
Also, see the last line of my signature. There is a link to post that says if you are asking for OBS help, to post an OBS log of a recording/streaming session. you haven't done that yet. Once you do, some other folks may be able to identify OBS settings that are causing your problem.

But, your expectations are NOT realistic. Yes, real-time video rendering is a BIG workload. whether you use OBS or other software. There have been MANY discussions of this exact topic in this forum.
 

Knup

New Member
It is unfortunate you didn't follow/understand the analogy. Maybe indicate your native language so someone who knows that language can provide a more direct response?
Also, see the last line of my signature. There is a link to post that says if you are asking for OBS help, to post an OBS log of a recording/streaming session. you haven't done that yet. Once you do, some other folks may be able to identify OBS settings that are causing your problem.

But, your expectations are NOT realistic. Yes, real-time video rendering is a BIG workload. whether you use OBS or other software. There have been MANY discussions of this exact topic in this forum.
Did you even read what OP is saying? The problem is that performance got WORSE since the last update, it used to work fine before, at no point at all did OP even remotely suggest that OBS should not consume any computing power, the problem form the very beginning was that it got W O R S E with the last update.

don't know what's going on, but clearly with the latest OBS update, everything is falling apart
but before it consumed 30-60 fps and now it takes more than 100.
Before being so patronizing about OP not speaking english as his native laguage how about you first gain even a modicum of reading comprehension, for gods sake
 

ZeDfriT

New Member
Did you even read what OP is saying? The problem is that performance got WORSE since the last update, it used to work fine before, at no point at all did OP even remotely suggest that OBS should not consume any computing power, the problem form the very beginning was that it got W O R S E with the last update.



Before being so patronizing about OP not speaking english as his native laguage how about you first gain even a modicum of reading comprehension, for gods sake
Thank you very much brother! You did take the time to read me. Apparently the problems come with Windows 10. I recently installed an OS called "Nobara Project" and got 650 FPS!!! I'm trying to get it to work fine with OBS, not being a linux expert it will take time but it works great.
 

DWAIN

New Member
I'm having problems with update I can't get video on obs window since the update.
How can I fix it?
 
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