Question / Help Trying to get best settings for my rig - WoW

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stejens

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Hello,

I have been reading guides and watching videos and am slowly getting there, my stream seems to run smoothly but looks kind of dusty/not crisp.

Hoping you could have a look over all my info posted below to see if I should change anything, or how to get the best from my rig.

I mainly will stream WoW, and play in ultra which pumps out 100-200FPS.

My specs are:

intel i5 6600k CPU @ 3.5GHZ (not oc yet).
16 gb RAM
GTX 950 Gaming GPU 2GB

Internet - 18mbps/18000kbps up

Monitor is 1600x900

I think maybe the quality can look different on other monitors, though i watch some streams that are crisp on both my 1600x900 computer monitor, and my 1920x1080 led tv.

Thanks all.
 

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Mroczny_Gustaw

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overall it looks ok, wow is semi-low motion game, Towelee streams even in 1080p on some quite low bitrate

video tab - set scaler to lanczos
output tab - disable scaling, you scaled it on video tab once, no need for second time
stream bitrate - why not go max twitch 3500?

or to get a bit better quality you can set 1:1 resolution on video tab, and enable "output" tab scaler to 720p. this will be more cpu costly because you will encode 900p data and rescale after encoding but should be no problem with this cpu

x264 high profile gives better quality also

https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/wiki/guides/bitrate_resolutions_quality

oc@4,5 is worth it, i have 6600k also
 
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stejens

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Thanks Mroczny,

I've updated settings with your recommendations and so far so good, looks better already, can't seem to find the 1:1 resolution on video tab you mentioned, I went to video tab and it's not there, had a look in other tabs too but no sign of it or "output" to enable.

I do wonder how to get it completely crisp also, I guess it is based on monitor, playing on a 1600x900 means I wouldn't be able to stream 1080p unless I had a 1080p monitor to play on?....though it would probably kill the CPU if I tried higher than 720p too.

The settings I initially had and the 720p downscale was based on a video guide I watched that said any higher would probably be bad as most people can only stream/watch 720p.

I guess there is no point in streaming with my base 1600x900 either?.

I will get round to overclocking, only got my new PC a few days ago, and have never overclocked before so need to research that so I don't blow up the new PC lol.
 
Simes

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1:1 resolution on video tab means that you set your Output resolution to be the same as your Canvas resolution.
 
Mroczny_Gustaw

Mroczny_Gustaw

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I dont think going for 1080p monitor is worth it. you would need better video card as well, gtx950 may be too low for full hd, not for wow probably but for other games.
also the thing with crispiness is that if you would stream 900p it would be crisp for you and people with 900p monitors, it would rescale for everyone else on their screens, so i think its better to stick with 720p60 and give it 3500 bitrate. or even try 720p30 for better BPP if you dont have a habit of moving your camera all the time. set your recoriding setting to same as stream and test, test , test
I just took a look at toweliee - 1080p60 with ~3500-4000 i think and it has a lot of big square pixels - for my personal taste ->nah

stejens said:
I will get round to overclocking, only got my new PC a few days ago, and have never overclocked before so need to research that so I don't blow up the new PC lol.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics
 
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stejens

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So if I set my "video" tab settings to 1600x900 canvas and output the same, it will give better quality?

I have done this now, and ticked the rescale output box in the "output" tab to rescale to 720.

Is it worth just unticking it and outputting 1600x900 everywhere if the computer can handle it?, or does outputting 720 actually perform better for viewers?. Like people watching with 720 would be fine, but no option for 1080 as I can only stream 900, how would I stream 1080?.

Sorry for all the questions, really trying to learn all this now so I can get up and running smoothly, and your responses are a great help so thanks for them.

I am still trying to fix buffering issue, when I watch my own stream on my laptop it buffers or freezes ALOT, plus I had a family member tell me it buffers all the time for them, but others say it streamed fine. I know my family members have 15mbps upload and 45mbps download so their internet certainly can handle the 3500kbps max which is what I have set, I even lowered it to 2500 just to do some checks and still my laptop and their PC buffered on it.

Must be something else i'm missing to fix that issue.
 
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stejens

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Oh and it's the same if I play games on the PS4 too, and only use my computer to do the streaming...buffers, so it's not an overload issue as I monitored the CPU (etc).
 
Mroczny_Gustaw

Mroczny_Gustaw

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yes, video tab canvas=output + output tab scaling can result in bit better quality but uses more cpu, you should decide yourself by making few recordings to compare. after some comparisions i prefer video tab scaling, I have a feeling that output tab scaler alters colors a bit...im not sure of it tho
imho you should not stream 900p, it would require higher bitrate to keep same quality. stay with 720p, and check my calc for more info. you could try 30fps
to get 1080 option you should have 1080p monitor or tv. it wont let you upscale from 900p to 1080 afaik. no point in that

I just looked at your test recording from few minutes back and I think its all you can get from 720p. it looks good for me

I have seen some stuttering tho. check if desktop refresh rate=60=obs fps=ingame refresh rate. it should be 60 everywhere to avoid hiccups
if going for 30 fps, change only obs setting, nothing else
 
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stejens

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Yeah I did a few test clips, and took a screenshot of each test to compare. But from what I saw when comparing the clips and the screenshots the original settings looked better, when I changed it to video tab being the same and downscaling in output tab instead...it became more blurry :S

I put the screenshots next to each other also and the names in the raid where more blurred than the one with original settings.

My screen refresh rate is 60hz, my ingame FPS is much higher as I am not using VSYNC so they are roughly 100-200FPS depending on area, better to use VSNC in the game then?

I can try stream 30 to see what difference it makes to quality, at the moment it's streaming 60. My JTV best server is London (has the lowest numbers) which I am using already.
And the bandwidth test showed 10000+ kbps on all European servers with London having the best ms @ 13.

Plus during testing I watched stream on laptop too and it did not buffer, so maybe at these times (4am here) it's smooth, but during the day or evening it buffers all the time, am sure my ISP (plusnet) does not limit, it's the reason I went with them in the first place.
 
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stejens

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Thanks, will give that a try tomorrow and do some more tests.

Still any reason why changing those settings suggested in output/video made it more blurry, even though it's supposed to be better that way?. I can do both settings again tomorrow and upload screenshot of both here so you can see what I mean.

Thanks again for the help, will report back later.
 
Mroczny_Gustaw

Mroczny_Gustaw

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stejens said:
Thanks, will give that a try tomorrow and do some more tests.

Still any reason why changing those settings suggested in output/video made it more blurry, even though it's supposed to be better that way?. I can do both settings again tomorrow and upload screenshot of both here so you can see what I mean.

Thanks again for the help, will report back later.
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I know what you mean, I gave it some good testing and prefer video tab scaling.
Im not sure, its probably about the way how different scalers work and most important individual preference what looks best for you.
 
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stejens

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Had a decent night on stream, only thing I changed was the VSYNC on and triple buffering as you suggested, quality looked good, didn't buffer on any of my devices tonight, same with my family who watched and usually buffers said it was perfect. So maybe those 2 in game options do make a difference :).

I never really notice the tearing and stuff, maybe I have always had it so is what I was use too, you can check a small portion of my recording just to see if it looks good with that issue now.

https://www.twitch.tv/ripper1uk/v/66632471
 
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