Question / Help One day to another youtube streaming is lagging/choppy

[choper]

Without installing anything new (any), using the same configuration in obs or in the game, with the upload speed and connection ok (same as the firsts and well done videos and checked every day); from streaming at 1440p perfectly to start with lagging at any resolution, even at 1080p.

From perfectly streaming to lagging using exactly the same parameters... Somebody notice this starting on saturday aprox. ?

I'm going to try another program to see if it's happen using another streaming tool, I'm losing my head right now...

Some update:

With "the other program" the results are worst. Same setup, new nvenc, etc. Worst. Even getting down the bitrate (my conection is perfect but for check things..), nothing improves.

I don't understand nothing. Maybe some normal windows update from last 2 days ? or Youtube problem ?

 

[choper]

Log from a test I did right now, (without sound):

Spoiler

14:42:25.575: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz
14:42:25.575: CPU Speed: 3696MHz
14:42:25.575: Physical Cores: 6, Logical Cores: 12
14:42:25.575: Physical Memory: 16329MB Total, 9541MB Free
14:42:25.575: Windows Version: 10.0 Build 17763 (revision: 379; 64-bit)
14:42:25.575: Running as administrator: false
14:42:25.575: Aero is Enabled (Aero is always on for windows 8 and above)
14:42:25.575: Windows 10 Gaming Features:
14:42:25.575: Game Bar: Off
14:42:25.575: Game DVR: Off
14:42:25.575: Game DVR Background Recording: Off
14:42:25.575: Game Mode: Off
14:42:25.576: Sec. Software Status:
14:42:25.577: Antivirus de Windows Defender: enabled (AV)
14:42:25.577: Firewall de Windows: enabled (FW)
14:42:25.577: Antivirus de Windows Defender: enabled (ASW)
14:42:25.577: Current Date/Time: 2019-03-26, 14:42:25
14:42:25.577: Browser Hardware Acceleration: true
14:42:25.577: Portable mode: false
14:42:25.844: OBS 23.0.2 (64-bit, windows)
14:42:25.844: ---------------------------------
14:42:25.854: ---------------------------------
14:42:25.854: audio settings reset:
14:42:25.854: samples per sec: 48000
14:42:25.854: speakers: 2
14:42:25.854: ---------------------------------
14:42:25.854: Initializing D3D11...
14:42:25.854: Available Video Adapters:
14:42:25.855: Adapter 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
14:42:25.855: Dedicated VRAM: 3077570560
14:42:25.855: Shared VRAM: 4266455040
14:42:25.855: output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={2560, 1440}, attached=true
14:42:25.857: Loading up D3D11 on adapter NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (0)
14:42:25.887: D3D11 loaded successfully, feature level used: 45056
14:42:26.405: ---------------------------------
14:42:26.405: video settings reset:
14:42:26.405: base resolution: 2560x1440
14:42:26.405: output resolution: 2560x1440
14:42:26.405: downscale filter: Bicubic
14:42:26.405: fps: 60/1
14:42:26.405: format: NV12
14:42:26.405: YUV mode: 709/Partial
14:42:26.406: NV12 texture support enabled
14:42:26.407: Audio monitoring device:
14:42:26.407: name: Por defecto
14:42:26.407: id: default
14:42:26.407: ---------------------------------
14:42:26.412: [CoreAudio encoder]: Adding CoreAudio AAC encoder
14:42:26.412: Failed to load 'en-US' text for module: 'decklink-ouput-ui.dll'
14:42:26.436: [AMF] AMF Test failed due to one or more errors.
14:42:26.436: Failed to initialize module 'enc-amf.dll'
14:42:26.443: Module '../../obs-plugins/64bit/libEGL.dll' not loaded
14:42:26.444: [obs-browser]: Version 2.3.0
14:42:26.446: NVENC supported
14:42:26.486: Couldn't find VLC installation, VLC video source disabled
14:42:26.488: No blackmagic support
14:42:26.490: ---------------------------------
14:42:26.490: Loaded Modules:
14:42:26.490: win-wasapi.dll
14:42:26.490: win-mf.dll
14:42:26.490: win-dshow.dll
14:42:26.490: win-decklink.dll
14:42:26.490: win-capture.dll
14:42:26.490: vlc-video.dll
14:42:26.490: text-freetype2.dll
14:42:26.490: rtmp-services.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-x264.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-vst.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-transitions.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-text.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-qsv11.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-outputs.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-filters.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-ffmpeg.dll
14:42:26.490: obs-browser.dll
14:42:26.490: image-source.dll
14:42:26.490: frontend-tools.dll
14:42:26.490: enc-amf.dll
14:42:26.490: decklink-ouput-ui.dll
14:42:26.490: coreaudio-encoder.dll
14:42:26.490: ---------------------------------
14:42:26.490: ==== Startup complete ===============================================
14:42:26.498: All scene data cleared
14:42:26.498: ------------------------------------------------
14:42:26.530: WASAPI: Device 'Altavoces (Realtek High Definition Audio)' initialized
14:42:26.702: WASAPI: Device 'Micrófono (Realtek High Definition Audio)' initialized
14:42:26.711: adding 128 milliseconds of audio buffering, total audio buffering is now 128 milliseconds (source: Mic/Aux)
14:42:26.711:
14:42:26.913: warning: deprecated pixel format used, make sure you did set range correctly
14:42:26.913: warning: Warning: data is not aligned! This can lead to a speed loss
14:42:26.962: Switched to scene 'Escena'
14:42:26.963: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] attempting to hook process: sekiro.exe
14:42:26.964: ------------------------------------------------
14:42:26.964: Loaded scenes:
14:42:26.964: - scene 'Escena':
14:42:26.964: - source: 'Imagen' (image_source)
14:42:26.964: - source: 'Capturar Juego' (game_capture)
14:42:26.964: - source: 'Imagen 2' (image_source)
14:42:26.964: - filter: 'Corrección de color' (color_filter)
14:42:26.964: - source: 'Dispositivo de captura de video' (dshow_input)
14:42:26.964: - filter: 'Fondro croma' (chroma_key_filter)
14:42:26.964: - filter: 'Filtro de enfoque' (sharpness_filter)
14:42:26.964: - filter: 'Desplazamiento' (scroll_filter)
14:42:26.964: - filter: 'Recortar/Acolchar' (crop_filter)
14:42:26.964: - source: 'Imagen 4' (image_source)
14:42:26.964: ------------------------------------------------
14:42:26.974: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] shared texture capture successful
14:42:28.283: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] d3d11 shared texture capture successful
14:42:28.291: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] shared texture capture successful
14:42:35.041: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture window no longer exists, terminating capture
14:42:35.041: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture stopped
14:42:35.058: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] attempting to hook process: sekiro.exe
14:42:35.074: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] shared texture capture successful
14:42:35.391: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture window no longer exists, terminating capture
14:42:35.391: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture stopped

Can be a problem of being execute without admin ¿?

 

[choper]

Update:

I tried using Chrome (I was using Firefox), and the stream looks like before. I have to test more but no lag and no choppy stream. I will keep updating the situation and maybe open a thread advising for a posible Firefox issue.

Update 2:

I recorded 3 clips (streams) using Chrome seems to solve the problem BUT the streaming now looks like going on 30 fps instead 60. It's fluid but not 60 fps fluid. It's weird... At least now is not choppy but anyway it looks like all this is not working properly.

I will continue testing in some hours.

 

[choper]

Another test:

Dropping bitrate, using 1080p instead 1440p; the results are worst. O_O

... I'm surrending how it's possible all this.. nonsense to me.

Someone knows something about this please ?

 

[choper]

Update 36:

I checked "use new network core" (or something like) in Advance-config and reset my router.. It SEEMS better this way but still not the fluidity of 60 fps like before all this happend.

Heelppppp

 

[choper]

Improves ¿?:

I just finished a streaming test and it was like before (close to) just changing B-frames to 1 instead 2. I don't know if Sekiro is a too fast game for the frames or what or if there is another causes for this improve, but that test stream looks perfect to me.

Ah.. and also change bicubic filter to lacszos. Don't tell me why because I don't reescale nothing but that improves the stream and even the recording comparing to Bicubic filter.

... I'm checking this test again and still not the fluidity of before. Better but the issue still there.

 

[Narcogen]

Without examining the parts of a log that record a streaming or recording session to see what is causing the lag you see, there's not much point in making adjustments. Without such a log you can't tell whether it is caused by network, GPU, or encoder, and without knowing that, you won't know what to adjust to fix it.

 

[choper]

Without examining the parts of a log that record a streaming or recording session to see what is causing the lag you see, there's not much point in making adjustments. Without such a log you can't tell whether it is caused by network, GPU, or encoder, and without knowing that, you won't know what to adjust to fix it.

https://obsproject.com/logs/Jhp7iPDE1IQnFb-_

Yeh but I made changes to test, in fact there was significant changes -for better- between first problems and now. That log is from my last test, and that test was very ok.. I don't know if there will be problems there.

 

[Narcogen]

No output session in the log.

The problem with changing things without looking at the logs, is that now you don't know what change you made fixed your problem-- not all of them may have been necessary. (Some might actually have made things worse!)

 

[choper]

No output session in the log.

The problem with changing things without looking at the logs, is that now you don't know what change you made fixed your problem-- not all of them may have been necessary. (Some might actually have made things worse!)

You see something here ?:

01:44:10.747: ==== Startup complete ===============================================
01:44:10.753: All scene data cleared
01:44:10.753: ------------------------------------------------
01:44:10.768: WASAPI: Device 'Altavoces (Realtek High Definition Audio)' initialized
01:44:10.904: adding 85 milliseconds of audio buffering, total audio buffering is now 85 milliseconds (source: Mic/Aux)
01:44:10.904:
01:44:10.946: adding 21 milliseconds of audio buffering, total audio buffering is now 106 milliseconds (source: Mic/Aux)
01:44:10.946:
01:44:10.953: WASAPI: Device 'Micrófono (Realtek High Definition Audio)' initialized
01:44:11.133: warning: deprecated pixel format used, make sure you did set range correctly
01:44:11.133: warning: Warning: data is not aligned! This can lead to a speed loss
01:44:11.173: Switched to scene 'Escena'
01:44:11.174: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] attempting to hook process: sekiro.exe
01:44:11.175: ------------------------------------------------
01:44:11.175: Loaded scenes:
01:44:11.175: - scene 'Escena':
01:44:11.175: - source: 'Imagen' (image_source)
01:44:11.175: - source: 'Capturar Juego' (game_capture)
01:44:11.175: - source: 'Imagen 2' (image_source)
01:44:11.175: - filter: 'Corrección de color' (color_filter)
01:44:11.176: - source: 'Dispositivo de captura de video' (dshow_input)
01:44:11.176: - filter: 'Fondro croma' (chroma_key_filter)
01:44:11.176: - filter: 'Filtro de enfoque' (sharpness_filter)
01:44:11.176: - filter: 'Desplazamiento' (scroll_filter)
01:44:11.176: - filter: 'Recortar/Acolchar' (crop_filter)
01:44:11.176: - source: 'Imagen 4' (image_source)
01:44:11.176: ------------------------------------------------
01:44:11.176: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] shared texture capture successful
01:44:11.196: ---------------------------------
01:44:11.196: [DShow Device: 'Dispositivo de captura de video'] settings updated:
01:44:11.196: video device: c922 Pro Stream Webcam
01:44:11.196: video path: \\?\usb#vid_046d&pid_085c&mi_00#6&1fd2bc46&0&0000#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\global
01:44:11.196: resolution: 960x720
01:44:11.196: fps: 30.00 (interval: 333333)
01:44:11.196: format: MJPEG
01:44:11.218: using video device audio: no
01:44:11.218: audio device: Micrófono (Realtek High Definition Audio)
01:44:11.218: sample rate: 44100
01:44:11.218: channels: 2
01:44:11.218: audio type: Capture
01:44:11.218: DShow: HDevice::ConnectPins: failed to connect pins (0x80040207):
01:46:55.009: [jim-nvenc] settings:
01:46:55.009: rate_control: CBR
01:46:55.009: bitrate: 18000
01:46:55.009: cqp: 20
01:46:55.009: keyint: 120
01:46:55.009: preset: mq
01:46:55.009: profile: high
01:46:55.009: width: 2560
01:46:55.009: height: 1440
01:46:55.009: 2-pass: true
01:46:55.009: b-frames: 2
01:46:55.009: lookahead: false
01:46:55.009: psycho_aq: true
01:46:55.009:
01:46:55.020: [CoreAudio AAC: 'Track1']: settings:
01:46:55.020: mode: AAC
01:46:55.020: bitrate: 160
01:46:55.020: sample rate: 48000
01:46:55.020: cbr: on
01:46:55.020: output buffer: 1536
01:46:55.020: [rtmp stream: 'adv_stream'] Connecting to RTMP URL rtmp://a.rtmp.youtube.com/live2...
01:46:55.068: [rtmp stream: 'adv_stream'] Interface: Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V (ethernet, 1000 mbps)
01:46:55.488: [rtmp stream: 'adv_stream'] Connection to rtmp://a.rtmp.youtube.com/live2 successful
01:46:55.491: ==== Streaming Start ===============================================
01:46:56.494: adding 85 milliseconds of audio buffering, total audio buffering is now 192 milliseconds (source: Dispositivo de captura de video)
01:46:56.494:
01:46:56.556: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] d3d11 shared texture capture successful
01:46:56.559: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] shared texture capture successful
01:52:11.316: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture window no longer exists, terminating capture
01:52:11.316: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture stopped
01:52:11.326: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] attempting to hook process: sekiro.exe
01:52:11.330: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] d3d11 shared texture capture successful
01:52:11.342: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] shared texture capture successful
01:52:11.708: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture window no longer exists, terminating capture
01:52:11.709: [game-capture: 'Capturar Juego'] capture stopped
01:52:22.242: [rtmp stream: 'adv_stream'] User stopped the stream
01:52:22.242: Output 'adv_stream': stopping
01:52:22.242: Output 'adv_stream': Total frames output: 19586
01:52:22.242: Output 'adv_stream': Total drawn frames: 16465 (19634 attempted)
01:52:22.242: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 3169 (16.1%)
01:52:22.242: Video stopped, number of skipped frames due to encoding lag: 3559/19602 (18.2%)
01:52:22.244: ==== Streaming Stop ================================================

 

[Narcogen]

Well increasing audio buffering isn't necessarily a good sign, but otherwise, no. You need to start an output session (streaming or recording) and then complete it before uploading a log, because performance data is written when a session stops. The idea is to run the session long enough to see the problem you're trying to troubleshoot.

 

[choper]

Now turning off fullscreen optimization on game executable. It improved a lot the streaming.

Anyway I continue searching and changing settings to find a good spot to start streaming again whether or not the issue still.

 

[kibblz]

Every time I read a post like this, no one seems to know what it is or how to fix it. I've been up 24 hours straight trying to fix this. It's like an obsession. I cannot fix it and I need to in order to continue making videos. Same problem for me. It's only stuttering in the videos. Only display capture removed the issue but I can't rely on that for recording. So what in the world is this and why does it happen? It's so bizarre! And it only happens in Metro Exodus at the moment in this certain area, in the open snow. Everywhere else is smooth. Game is fine, its just the recording showing it.

https://youtu.be/2_Dass8xK10

 

[choper]

More absurdness to this.. I rise bitratefrom 18k to 20k, change again to Max Quality and it goes pretty ok.

BUT it's obvious to me that OBS has a problem with fullscreen optimization since some days ago (because I had it ON the first days with nio problems) because now if I turn it off my stream goes better.

I hope new OBS update come faster because there is some weird stuff here.

 

[kibblz]

I dunno if your problem is the same as mine but I've been doing testing for more than 24 hours. I got some kind of results by setting the game to 1280x720 and it's almost perfectly smooth now in the recording. Obviously I don't want to play like that but when I up the game back to 1920x1080, the stuttering is showing in the video.

 

[spliffy]

my gameplay high settings at 1080p is smooth but during recording, it lags not on the gameplay but the recorded obs vid. it becomes usable only if i set the gameplay setting to 780p..

im experimenting and the final verdict is medium+720p setting. lol. obs made me play on medium, i was supposed to be enjoying it smoothly with high+1080p.

the attachment was with high settings + 1080p with OBS recording, simple config, NVEC, medium size.

PS: i guess geforce experience is the way to go rn.