Question / Help OBS daily headaches!!

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DabbaNabb

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Hello. I'm a new streamer #trying2become1. Been trying to reach a satisfying live stream quality for a half of year now. And when i say satisfying i mean 90/95% video quality, 10/5% pixels (i can live with that 10/5% pixels). No matter how many settings i tried it seems i just can't reach that goal. Now let's talk about my rig and my internet connection. I own a ASUS ROG FHD 120 Hz i7-7700HQ 3.80 GHz (up to 4 GHz) 64GB DDR4 1TB SATA 7200 RPM + 256GB SSD nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 VR Ready Win 10. My internet connection is as follows : DS 300 Mbps and my US is 150 Mbps (see image). I've watched streamers (famous or not) with weaker rigs than mine, getting clear water quality streams. Now i'm not arrogant, i don't want to just have or copy/paste unaware of what that does, i'm trying to learn and understand what this and that does. I've searched so many forums and watched so many tutorials and gained knowledge about this stuff. I found over 15 ways to set up your obs for streaming, i just can't find mine. I know i can do so much better with this rig i have. I know that as a newbie it's best to go 720p30, i know Twitch wont allow you to go higher unless you are partnered, but Youtube is less "Stasi" about it. There are a lot of unprofessional advises from regular users (like me) on forums (when i say regular i mean i cannot give advises or make tutorials on forums just because some settings worked very well for me and say "don't use NVENC because it's shit"). What do you think? What would be the best settings for my rig? Should i use simple or advanced settings? Should i go with CPU or GPU? If you need any other information let me know! Thank you so much in advance!!

PS : I know you get this a lot : "I'm a new streamer, i want to make it into the internet marketing industry. What settings should i use" and all that bla bla but bare with me please. Just roll your eyes :)) and bare with me. Thank you!
 

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Fenrir

Fenrir

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This post isn't really clear what your actual issue is. Why don't you follow the steps below to get a clean log so we can see what your settings are. Also, try to explain exactly what the issues you're having are.

To make a clean log file, first restart OBS, then start your stream/recording for ~30 seconds and stop it again. Make sure you replicate any issues as best you can, which means having any games/apps open and captured, etc. When you're done select Help > Log Files > Upload Current Log File. Copy the URL and paste it here.
 
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TryHD

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for your rig twitch is not really a good option, i would go for nvenc 1080p60 at 50 mbit/s bitrate (50000 in obs settings) on youtube
 
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DabbaNabb

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Fenrir said:
This post isn't really clear what your actual issue is. Why don't you follow the steps below to get a clean log so we can see what your settings are. Also, try to explain exactly what the issues you're having are.

To make a clean log file, first restart OBS, then start your stream/recording for ~30 seconds and stop it again. Make sure you replicate any issues as best you can, which means having any games/apps open and captured, etc. When you're done select Help > Log Files > Upload Current Log File. Copy the URL and paste it here.
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I think my stream is way too pixelate and blurry for the gaming equipment and the internet connection i have. I wanna get rid of that. I demand clear quality stream videos. It didn't work with higher bitrates, it didn't work with lower bitrates, nor with NVENC or x264. Obs shows between 10% and 15% CPU usage when i'm playing let's say PUBG. Which means i'm not using muscles.
 
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DabbaNabb

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TryHD said:
for your rig twitch is not really a good option, i would go for nvenc 1080p60 at 50 mbit/s bitrate (50000 in obs settings) on youtube
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TryHD said:
for your rig twitch is not really a good option, i would go for nvenc 1080p60 at 50 mbit/s bitrate (50000 in obs settings) on youtube
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What do you mean by "for your rig twitch is not really a good option"? Like too weak for twitch or don't waste your rig on twitch?
 
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DabbaNabb

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DabbaNabb said:
I think my stream is way too pixelate and blurry for the gaming equipment and the internet connection i have. I wanna get rid of that. I demand clear quality stream videos. It didn't work with higher bitrates, it didn't work with lower bitrates, nor with NVENC or x264. Obs shows between 10% and 15% CPU usage when i'm playing let's say PUBG. Which means i'm not using muscles.
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In high motion games the stream becomes pixelated and blurry. When i don't move everything is clear as water.
 
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TryHD

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that is the result of to low bitrate for the resolution you stream at, you can decrease the resolution and fps if you don't want to increase the encoder settings or bitrate. Like i said the best thing for you is going for a high bitrate stream, because you have enough upload.
 
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Harold

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And yet single-computer streaming rigs are viable down in the 7000 cpumark range. Stop spreading misinformation.
 
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TryHD

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if your aim is 720p30 or 540p, well yes (what i would never ever call viable in 2017). But why should he do that if he can have 1080p60 via nvenc.
 
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DabbaNabb

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TryHD said:
that is the result of to low bitrate for the resolution you stream at, you can decrease the resolution and fps if you don't want to increase the encoder settings or bitrate. Like i said the best thing for you is going for a high bitrate stream, because you have enough upload.
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Fenrir said:
@TryHD

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700HQ+@+2.80GHz

This is actually a fairly decent CPU. Can you stop spreading misinformation? If you're not sure, please refrain from commenting. You haven't seen any logs, and you're just guessing at what the problem is.

@DabbaNabb

Please provide the clean log from the directions I provided so I can help guide you better on what you need to change.
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First thing first, when i was using NVENC on youtube, instead of putting 50000 i was using 5000, i know, huge noob, i missunderstood the difference between NVENC bitrate and x264 3200 bitrate. I still dont understand why NVENC needs 50000 and x264 needs 2000/3000/etc. I used @TryHD recommendations on youtube and it looks awesome now, but with a little bit of stream stutter from time to time. I wonder if i can go higher than 50000 assuming the bitrate is the cause of that small stutter.

Using OBS and the game on the rig, the twitch page with the chat and everything is opened on a different laptop to avoid alt tabbing to check the chat and everything that goes around twitch. I'm also mentioning that i actually never tried using 720p30fps nvenc 50000 bitrate on twitch. Again, i was using 5000 instead of 50000 for nvenc. Im sry about the confusion i created.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0a9c3cbfde9a93ab72ebdf9b4efee8cb

I bought the rig with 16 gb ram i upgraded to max 64, I don't know why the log doesn't show that. The Gaming Center app that came with the rig shows 4.1 Mhz on Extreme (the turbo gear) while i play PUBG.

I hope the log info doesn't put me in some dangerous info leak somehow, that is why i esitate to post it from the start. I know, you woudn't ask for it if it was dangerous to the user.
 
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Fenrir

Fenrir

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Streaming at 50k bitrate is the most asinine and obnoxious suggestion I've ever heard. Please don't do that.

This is your issue with x264: 19:52:36.203: [x264 encoder: 'streaming_h264'] preset: medium

Put that back on veryfast, and you can stream 720p, 60fps @6k bitrate to twitch just fine if that's what you're looking to do.
 
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DabbaNabb

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So the results. Tested. I have to stay away from x264. NVENC 50000 720p30 is crystal clear on twitch, no pixels at all. NVENC 50000 1080p60 on youtube is crystal clear, no pixels at all, just some stutter like i said. So the reason my stream was shit is because i am shit at understanding how things work. Can i increase the bitrate for youtube? Or what is the motive for that stutter? Also can i get an explanation why NVENC needs 50000 for example (depends on the upload speed i guess) and why x264 needs 2000/3000/etc? Thank you. Maybe @TryHD wasn't right about that cpu being slow but he was right about the settings i should use. Everything he recommended works perfect now. As for the location where i stream, i tend to go more on youtube because i have more people joining there than twitch. I do stream on both, some games on twitch some on youtube.
 
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DabbaNabb

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Fenrir said:
Streaming at 50k bitrate is the most asinine and obnoxious suggestion I've ever heard. Please don't do that.

This is your issue with x264: 19:52:36.203: [x264 encoder: 'streaming_h264'] preset: medium

Put that back on veryfast, and you can stream 720p, 60fps @6k bitrate to twitch just fine if that's what you're looking to do.
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I'm not partnered with twitch, i can't go more than 3500.
 
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DabbaNabb

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Update. I increased to 70000 and i have no stutter now. Thank you so much guys. You are the best. You can check this as solved. Have a good one.
 
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