Question / Help Non Partned Streamer - Should I go above 30FPS?

[N000B]

Hey!

I have some question, I'm trying to stream to Twitch. :)

1. Should I go above 30FPS if I'm no partnered? I play FPS-games mostly.

2. If I get pixalation, will this be fixed if I set my bitrate higher?

3. Does pixalation occur when I try to stream at a high FPS using very little bitrate, for an example 60FPS @ 2650KBPS?

4. If I have a 144Hz monitor and V-sync off, when streaming at 30FPS, will this have any impact on the streaming quality?

Thanks in advance.

 

[kherby]

1. No.
2. Yes. But non-partners max bitrate is 3500 (Or so my google-fu says). I believe it used to be 2500.
3. To stream at 1080p60fps you would need a bitrate of 6000 or over. Which a non-partner and even most partners can't achieve.
4. Your monitor will not affect the quality of your stream. Period.

 

[Doom Stone]

1. No.
2. Yes. But non-partners max bitrate is 3500 (Or so my google-fu says). I believe it used to be 2500.
3. To stream at 1080p60fps you would need a bitrate of 6000 or over. Which a non-partner and even most partners can't achieve.
4. Your monitor will not affect the quality of your stream. Period.

Twitch has actually increased the bitrate allowed for anyone to 6000. While it's a great option for partners that have transcoding options to provide a better quality stream, it's still not recommended for us common folk to go above 3500.

As for the resolution to FPS to bitrate battle goes, there's a pretty useful formula that can help you decide what to run for your particular settings:

(width * height * framerate * 0.1) / 1000 = bitrate​

Width and Height both correspond to the pixel width and height you will be streaming at after any scaling. Framerate refers to either 30 or 60, naturally. 0.1 is the bits per pixel. For FPS games, or anything with a lot of fast motion and action, 0.1 is what's recommended. For slower paced games or anything that is mostly static and doesn't change on screen, such as Hearthstone or Magic, you could lower this to say 0.05 or even 0.03.

So using the above formula using my own settings, it would look like this for a 720p 30 FPS stream:

(1280 * 720 * 30 * 0.1) / 1000 = 2765 bitrate​

I personally stream at 3500 just to give myself extra room and quality, and the regulars in my channel are more than happy with it. Granted exceptions can always be made on a case by case basis, but it's a good starting point.

 

[N000B]

Twitch has actually increased the bitrate allowed for anyone to 6000. While it's a great option for partners that have transcoding options to provide a better quality stream, it's still not recommended for us common folk to go above 3500.

As for the resolution to FPS to bitrate battle goes, there's a pretty useful formula that can help you decide what to run for your particular settings:

(width * height * framerate * 0.1) / 1000 = bitrate​

Width and Height both correspond to the pixel width and height you will be streaming at after any scaling. Framerate refers to either 30 or 60, naturally. 0.1 is the bits per pixel. For FPS games, or anything with a lot of fast motion and action, 0.1 is what's recommended. For slower paced games or anything that is mostly static and doesn't change on screen, such as Hearthstone or Magic, you could lower this to say 0.05 or even 0.03.

So using the above formula using my own settings, it would look like this for a 720p 30 FPS stream:

(1280 * 720 * 30 * 0.1) / 1000 = 2765 bitrate​

I personally stream at 3500 just to give myself extra room and quality, and the regulars in my channel are more than happy with it. Granted exceptions can always be made on a case by case basis, but it's a good starting point.

OK, cool! I'm gonna try that out and see what my stream looks like. Thanks!