Question / Help I need to put a webcam at 12 meters for OBS. Any solution ?

Dihelson Mendonca

Dihelson Mendonca

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Yes, guys, in order to record or stream what I need to do, I need to put my Logitech C920 at 12 meters from the PC. I searched for cables that long, and they tell us that webcams doesn´t work at this distance. Is that true ? What´s the solution ?
 
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BluePeer

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if you go skydiving, do you take a bed sheet or do you buy a parachute?

there is the right tool for every task

A USB webcam is intended for direct connection to the pc
buy you just one IP cam which are designed for the remote attach the cable either go through lan or wireless
 
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TryHD

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The Specification for USB is 3 meters everything longer is will maybe work or maybe not.
IP cams are expensive if you want good quality so don't go for that if you don't have deep pockets.
Elgato Camlink with a Panasonic V777 and app controll for zoom is the normal way for that usecase i would say.
 
Dihelson Mendonca

Dihelson Mendonca

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Guys, I already purchased too much in this life. I want to solve the problems with what I already have, unless I wouldn´t be asking. The problem is that I already installed 3 capture cards and 3 DSLR cameras using HDMI cables, but I need a 4th camera and there´s no more cameras, there´s no more slots and mostly, there´s no more MONEY. But I have 2 logitech C920, 2 computers linked by the network. I can use OBS on only one of them, so, I can´t use NDI for sending the webcam signal to the other. Perhaps I could use another software which could capture the webcam video, send through ethernet and on the other PC, it enters as a new source on OBS. Any ideas ?

Thanks.
 
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BluePeer said:
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Panasonic V777 cost x3 then regular 1080P IP cams
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yes and that regular 1080p IP cams look worse than a Logitech C920 which is cheaper and the model is 10 years old. Like I said, if you want something that outputs a 1080p video feed that looks like 1080p and not 360p you need to pay more.
 
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Dihelson Mendonca said:
Guys, I already purchased too much in this life. I want to solve the problems with what I already have, unless I wouldn´t be asking. The problem is that I already installed 3 capture cards and 3 DSLR cameras using HDMI cables, but I need a 4th camera and there´s no more cameras, there´s no more slots and mostly, there´s no more MONEY. But I have 2 logitech C920, 2 computers linked by the network. I can use OBS on only one of them, so, I can´t use NDI for sending the webcam signal to the other. Perhaps I could use another software which could capture the webcam video, send through ethernet and on the other PC, it enters as a new source on OBS. Any ideas ?

Thanks.
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without buy there is no chance the distance is to long for USB
 
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Harold

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Monoprice offers powered usb 2.0 extension cables up to 25M long.
Logitech C920/C922 cameras are NOT usb 3.0 cameras.

You could use the NDI scan converter to send a direct feed from the camera to the streaming computer via NDI.
 
Dihelson Mendonca

Dihelson Mendonca

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Harold said:
Monoprice offers powered usb 2.0 extension cables up to 25M long.
Logitech C920/C922 cameras are NOT usb 3.0 cameras.

You could use the NDI scan converter to send a direct feed from the camera to the streaming computer via NDI.
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NOW, we´re beginning to point to the right ideas. What ?? NDI scan converter, what´s that ? Looks nice if we could send the signal from one PC to another through NDI, but I can´t run OBS in one of the computers, perhaps other softwares. The reason I can´t run OBS is that I already use a very resource consuming software which needs to be undisturbed, because any attempt to run OBS on that same machine, provokes errors on this software, so, I need another solutions. Thanks for the idea. I would love if you could add some more in order to clarify what it really is. PLEASE !
 
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Dihelson Mendonca said:
Pehaps that´s because you are thinking only in the matter of wires, 12 meters long. What about IDEAS ? What about sending the video from one PC to another by lan ? Is there a chance ?
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you self wrote
Dihelson Mendonca said:
But I have 2 logitech C920, 2 computers linked by the network. I can use OBS on only one of them, so, I can´t use NDI for sending the webcam signal to the other.
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that sounds for me that the location or the PC can't handle a operation like this so i go back to the base of the distance between the target(pc) and the source(cam) usb did not realy work there

and you said 0 budget to buy stuff so i have no options for idear
 
Harold

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the NDI scan converter is a program that is able to take a video feed from a program or video capture device on one computer and convert it to an NDI compatible feed for use on other computers. You don't NEED to run obs on the source computer when using this. It's part of the NDI tools package.
ndi.tv

Tools – NDI

Take control of your connection. Discover all the NDI tools and plugins you need to set up, test and manage your NDI streams.
ndi.tv ndi.tv
 
Dihelson Mendonca

Dihelson Mendonca

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Harold said:
the NDI scan converter is a program that is able to take a video feed from a program or video capture device on one computer and convert it to an NDI compatible feed for use on other computers. You don't NEED to run obs on the source computer when using this. It's part of the NDI tools package.
ndi.tv

Tools – NDI

Take control of your connection. Discover all the NDI tools and plugins you need to set up, test and manage your NDI streams.
ndi.tv ndi.tv
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That´s great. Perhaps I could send the video feed captured by the webcam software from 1 computer to another via SDI. This wouldn´t need to run OBS on the first one. I only need to make some research how it works, what to install, and read read and test test...

Thanks, Harold. This may be a solution, or at least one solution. Other ideas are welcome too.
 
carlmmii

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Without spending any money, NDI is the best solution for you.

If you do have a little money to spend, then active usb2.0 extension cables do work. These essentially act as one-port hubs, meaning as long as the webcam gets enough power over the cable, it should be fine (this works perfectly fine in most cases for c920/c922).
 
Dihelson Mendonca

Dihelson Mendonca

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carlmmii said:
Without spending any money, NDI is the best solution for you.

If you do have a little money to spend, then active usb2.0 extension cables do work. These essentially act as one-port hubs, meaning as long as the webcam gets enough power over the cable, it should be fine (this works perfectly fine in most cases for c920/c922).
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Yes, I have some money, I´m only tired of purchasing things that either don´t work well, or that I needed only once. I have some 4 USB 2.0 active extensions, they work great for keyboards and mouses, but not for cameras. Indeed, neither ethernet USB extensions work for webcams after 5 meters. Thanks for trying to help and ideas.
 
Harold

Harold

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carlmmii

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Dihelson Mendonca said:
Yes, I have some money, I´m only tired of purchasing things that either don´t work well, or that I needed only once. I have some 4 USB 2.0 active extensions, they work great for keyboards and mouses, but not for cameras. Indeed, neither ethernet USB extensions work for webcams after 5 meters. Thanks for trying to help and ideas.
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My setup is a living room setup with 7 webcams (5 C922's, a C920, and a Brio). 3 of these C922's are on their own 32ft USB2.0 active extender (blue rigger), all operating at max capacity (720p/60fps). The brio (usb3.0 webcam) is also on an active usb3.0 extender to a hub, also running without issue.

Active extenders absolutely do work. Power delivery is usually the main problem, as there has to be enough power delivered to the cable itself to handle the hub functionality, as well as driving what's connected to it. As long as they're being run straight to your computer, and your computer is outputting the required power to the port, it should run without issue.
 
Dihelson Mendonca

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Harold said:

Monoprice USB Type-A to Type-A Female 2.0 Extension Cable - Active, 28/24AWG, Repeater, Kinect and PS3 Move Compatible, Black, 32ft - Monoprice.com

Due to its design, USB cable has a normal maximum length of about 5 meters (16.4 feet), but you can get longer distances by using an Active USB Extension/Repeater Cable from Monoprice™!This is a
www.monoprice.com
This line of cables does work with C920s
source: I have the 82ft ones and c920s and they work.
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Wow ! Thanks a lot. I´ll try to locate it in my Country.
 
Dihelson Mendonca

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carlmmii said:
My setup is a living room setup with 7 webcams (5 C922's, a C920, and a Brio). 3 of these C922's are on their own 32ft USB2.0 active extender (blue rigger), all operating at max capacity (720p/60fps). The brio (usb3.0 webcam) is also on an active usb3.0 extender to a hub, also running without issue.

Active extenders absolutely do work. Power delivery is usually the main problem, as there has to be enough power delivered to the cable itself to handle the hub functionality, as well as driving what's connected to it. As long as they're being run straight to your computer, and your computer is outputting the required power to the port, it should run without issue.
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You´re right. Power deliver on some of these cables are the problem. When I plug mines, C920 isn´t recognizes because USB power roes not arrive at an optimum level, Perhaps if therés another way to supply 5 volts locally to the camera, data would be transmitted at long distances.
 
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