Question / Help Hunting for Slow CPU Preset

Hothazer

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Hello!, im trying to find a good cpu that can achieve Slow Preset on stream stabled. i tried Threadripper 1950x but couldnt reach slow only medium. i tried Ryzen x2700 but it only goes to high. im trying to stream 1080p 8k bitrate to match Tsm_myth perfect quality. somebody help. money is not a concern. i need a processor for easy overclock, long lifespan, and any price. i just need motherboard and processor. i7-8700k? i7-9700k? overkill wouldnt matter to me. someone said threadripper is overkill but in reality it hard pushing clock speed
 

BK-Morpheus

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If I may suggest: Do a test recording with faster preset and another one with medium while using CBR on both.
Then compare the quality.
You should then see, that the visual difference between fast/faster and medium/slow is barely visible.
Depending on the content, 8k bitrate is just too low for high quality 1080p 60fps.

It seems than many people think, they can increase their stream quality immensly, by switching from very fast to slow preset, but the real visual quality difference isn't that huge.
 
I'm using Ryzen 7 2700x in the streaming PC (dual PC setup) for 6500kbps (Twitch, I'm not partnered) 1080p 60FPS in High/Medium with 0% of lost frames. But if I try to go to High/Slow, the stream becomes a stutter fest (about 50% of lost frames due to encoding lag).

If money is not a concern and you want to go to Slow, maybe the biggest Threadripper or maybe some big Xeon is the one you need.
 

Hothazer

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I'm using Ryzen 7 2700x in the streaming PC (dual PC setup) for 6500kbps (Twitch, I'm not partnered) 1080p 60FPS in High/Medium with 0% of lost frames. But if I try to go to High/Slow, the stream becomes a stutter fest (about 50% of lost frames due to encoding lag).

If money is not a concern and you want to go to Slow, maybe the biggest Threadripper or maybe some big Xeon is the one you need.
tried threadripper but it didnt work as good due to Max temp
 

Hothazer

New Member
If I may suggest: Do a test recording with faster preset and another one with medium while using CBR on both.
Then compare the quality.
You should then see, that the visual difference between fast/faster and medium/slow is barely visible.
Depending on the content, 8k bitrate is just too low for high quality 1080p 60fps.

It seems than many people think, they can increase their stream quality immensly, by switching from very fast to slow preset, but the real visual quality difference isn't that huge.
it a huge visual difference to be honest. especially when im a fast builder in fortnite. i went fast preset on threadripper and it look absolute garbage. so i went medium it was way better because it became smooth. so i tried slow. it butter smooth but my cpu temp wasnt cutting.
 

carlmmii

Active Member
Um.... hold up.

so I went medium it was way better because it became smooth
Smooth how? As in better image quality? Or better recorded framerate? Or better in-game framerate?

my cpu temp wasn't cutting
Fix that. You can't expect a cpu to do what it needs to if you don't give it adequate cooling.
 

Hothazer

New Member
Um.... hold up.


Smooth how? As in better image quality? Or better recorded framerate? Or better in-game framerate?
better motion on very fast pace game or my crazy high dpi mouse. it better image quality. look at Tsm Myth Stream and then compare it to mine Twitch.com/Hothazer

Fix that. You can't expect a cpu to do what it needs to if you don't give it adequate cooling.
i gave it kraken x62 full speed on fans and couldnt go over 4.0 gigahertz. same as other people that went water cooling stay at 4.1 barely. with acceptable temp. Look at Tsm Myth stream running on Slow Preset and compared to my stream on Medium. look at it during fast motion not idle walking straight. watch when we turn around Twitch.com/hothazer
 
tried threadripper but it didnt work as good due to Max temp
What Threadripper?.

There are differences between 1900x and 2990wx...

Well, that could be because insuficient cooling or bad OC unit.

Not every single chip performs the same with same voltage and temp, and that's even worse when overclocking. If you have a CPU that goes to high temps with OC, maybe you need a better cooling sollution. Or changing to another CPU even same model, to see if the "silicon lottery" smiles you this time.
 

Hothazer

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Well, that could be because insuficient cooling or bad OC unit.

Not every single chip performs the same with same voltage and temp, and that's even worse when overclocking. If you have a CPU that goes to high temps with OC, maybe you need a better cooling sollution. Or changing to another CPU even same model, to see if the "silicon lottery" smiles you this time.
everything is fine with cpu but no one can overclock more than 4.1 ghz because of max temp. i can only go 4.0 ghz on medium preset but i was hoping for slow preset but that didnt work at all. i just saw on youtube that someone had this cpu but couldnt go slow preset. it crashed on him
 
everything is fine with cpu but no one can overclock more than 4.1 ghz because of max temp. i can only go 4.0 ghz on medium preset but i was hoping for slow preset but that didnt work at all. i just saw on youtube that someone had this cpu but couldnt go slow preset. it crashed on him
If no one can OC more than 4.1 it has to be because of more than just temps. If temps. were the only problem, you can allways have a better coolingn (i.e. custom overkilled liquid cooling rigs)

By the way, I edited my previous post while you were answering I guess.

What Threadripper?.

There are differences between 1900x and 2990wx...
 

BK-Morpheus

Active Member
it a huge visual difference to be honest. especially when im a fast builder in fortnite. i went fast preset on threadripper and it look absolute garbage. so i went medium it was way better because it became smooth. so i tried slow. it butter smooth but my cpu temp wasnt cutting.
I already compared a lot on my own, that's why I said, that the visual impact between fast and medium is so little, that you can barely see it.
The compression quality has nothing to do with the smoothness of your footage, so it sounds like the problem has nothing to do with quality, rather than smooth and solid fluid frames.
 

Hothazer

New Member
I already compared a lot on my own, that's why I said, that the visual impact between fast and medium is so little, that you can barely see it.
The compression quality has nothing to do with the smoothness of your footage, so it sounds like the problem has nothing to do with quality, rather than smooth and solid fluid frames.
compare my stream to Tsm myth. twitch.com/Hothazer. only watch the fast pace or fight. not walking idle .
 

Hothazer

New Member
im sorry guys. i really dont want to waste your time. just give me a suggestion on which cpu i should get. i can get i7-8700 or i7-8086k. any suggestion is perfect. just 1080p 60 fps slow cpu preset with x62 kraken cooler. cpu with more ghz like more than 4.0 is perfect.plz
 
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