Question / Help Help needed ASAP - Lower thirds

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Gina Theresa

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Hey guys!

I need to figure out how to put lower thirds in my show. The guy who normally does it says it "can't" be done, but i've already seen it done on multiple streaming shows so there must be a way.

I have 3 camera views on 3 separate sets of guests, and I need a lower third attached to each of the views so that when we switch cameras, it pulls up their names as well. We're using OBS to stream, and blackmagic ATEM to switch. I figured out how to do a SINGLE lower third in blackmagic, but not how to do multiples. I've been told conflicting information- that blackmagic can / can't handle multiple lower thirds, and that OBS can / can't handle multiple lower thirds.

Does anyone here have ANY advice on this? (preferably in laymen's "click this do that" terms because man.. I tried searching the forum and i couldn't make heads or tails of what most of y'all were saying!) Our next live show is Tuesday and I really need to have it figured out by then, if possible.

Thank you so much!
 
If you're doing the lower thirds in the blackmagic hardware, we don't provide support for that.
 
If you use an image for the lower third, duplicate your scene with the video. Now in the new scene add the image as a image source. Now (if in studio mode) you can transition between the scene with the lower scene and without. If you want to change the image just make sure it's not currently live. Or create multiple duplicates with the different images.
As an alternative you can make a html overlay with
http://nodecg.com/ or https://github.com/lebaston100/htmlOverlayFramework
Just 2 of the possible methods.
 
If you are switching with the BMD ATEM, then OBS has no way of knowing which camera is on the program bus, and hence can not put up the graphic you need.

If you had all 3 cameras running into OBS and created a scene for each camera and used OBS as your 'switcher', then you could put a unique lower 3rd in each scene and as you switched it would appear automatically.

As to how to bind a unique upstream key source to each camera source in the BMD ATEM, you'll have to contact BMD or read the manual.
 
c3r1c3 said:
If you are switching with the BMD ATEM, then OBS has no way of knowing which camera is on the program bus, and hence can not put up the graphic you need.

If you had all 3 cameras running into OBS and created a scene for each camera and used OBS as your 'switcher', then you could put a unique lower 3rd in each scene and as you switched it would appear automatically.

As to how to bind a unique upstream key source to each camera source in the BMD ATEM, you'll have to contact BMD or read the manual.
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What is needed hardware-wise to use OBS as my switcher? Because you have no idea how much of a headache that would save me!
 
Also, the "tech guy" is saying that we can't run professional cameras through the OBS, that it can't handle 3 hi-def HMC cam feeds. Thoughts?

Thank you guys so much for your help so far.
 
I do not have any experience with the parts in detail but a combination of a i7 7700k or i7 8700k and a gtx 1070 with maybe a blackmagic decklink duo 2(if you need sdi inputs) should do the job.
 
Considering that I've used a Blackmagic Decklink Quad2+SDI 4k+ Intensity Pro 4k with 2 SDI camera sources (plus some other goodies/sources) simultaneously... I would say your tech guy is horribly wrong. ;-)

OBS can easily handle it. The only question is if your system (i.e. hardware and whatnot) is setup properly and/or can handle it.

Or to put it another way, can your tech guy handle it? ;-)
 
Well I tested the new blue live titler ,,,it sends out multiple ndi outputs that can be added in obs ....what I di was make a graphic scene with the ndi from newblue and added it to all my scenes the when I need a lower 3rd just run it from newblue and it comes in and out on what ever scene have the graphics scene added to it ...and you can run different channels and run multiple overlays at once ....it's killer ,,try the demo....ndi has opened lots of doors for these video productions
 
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