Question / Help Blurry/Grainy Stream

MrSefaaa

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Title says it all really. I've tried so many different settings to try to fix this, but I can't seem to find the correct settings. My up speed is at least 20. Please help! All I'm trying to stream is Minecraft, so I don't understand why it would be super blurry/poor quality. Help!
 

FerretBomb

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Please post a logfile from a live streaming or recording session at least 30 seconds in length, as it requests when you open a new thread in the Support forum. There is a pinned thread at the top of the forum with instructions how.

Normally blurry/grainy video is a symptom of insufficient bitrate for your selected resolution and framerate though.
 

FerretBomb

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There are a bunch of different settings and attempts in there. It'd probably help if you closed OBS, opened it, did a single test stream with one set of settings that is giving the grainy/blurry issue, end the stream, close and reopen OBS, then Help->Log Files->Upload Last Log File.

I do see that you're downscaling to 720p on all of your attempts, which will always incur an unavoidable image quality loss, especially on things like text. 720p, 30fps, 3000kbps should provide reasonably good image quality. Do be aware that you will never have perfect video quality on a livestream, especially when you're downscaling the video.
 

MrSefaaa

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There are a bunch of different settings and attempts in there. It'd probably help if you closed OBS, opened it, did a single test stream with one set of settings that is giving the grainy/blurry issue, end the stream, close and reopen OBS, then Help->Log Files->Upload Last Log File.

I do see that you're downscaling to 720p on all of your attempts, which will always incur an unavoidable image quality loss, especially on things like text. 720p, 30fps, 3000kbps should provide reasonably good image quality. Do be aware that you will never have perfect video quality on a livestream, especially when you're downscaling the video.

But I mean I understand that there might be lost of quality, but this is almost unbearable to watch.
 

FerretBomb

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There was no streaming or recording session in that log.
However, having both a Game Capture and a Display Capture in the same scene can cause MAJOR issues. Recommend deleting the Display Capture, and if you really need it, add it to a second scene instead.
 

MrSefaaa

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There was no streaming or recording session in that log.
However, having both a Game Capture and a Display Capture in the same scene can cause MAJOR issues. Recommend deleting the Display Capture, and if you really need it, add it to a second scene instead.
Oh okay. Thing is I can't for some reason get my Minecraft Badlion Client to show on the game capture, so I have to use display capture instead. But here is the updated logs.
 

FerretBomb

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Ah, yeah. That's because IIRC Badlion uses an injection hook to alter the game. Multiple process hooks usually conflict with each other, and the game cap process is a hook. In that case, deleting the Game Capture would be recommended. Only using one or the other works, Game Cap is just STRONGLY preferred if possible due to a ton of down sides to using Display Cap.
 

MrSefaaa

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Ah, yeah. That's because IIRC Badlion uses an injection hook to alter the game. Multiple process hooks usually conflict with each other, and the game cap process is a hook. In that case, deleting the Game Capture would be recommended. Only using one or the other works, Game Cap is just STRONGLY preferred if possible due to a ton of down sides to using Display Cap.
On that note, is there anything you see wrong with those logs? Like the quality is just dreadful. I even tried to change the bitrate to 6k, but there was no change in quality. But thanks for letting me know, if you don't mind what would be the downside of having both caps on and Display caps?
 

FerretBomb

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On that note, is there anything you see wrong with those logs? Like the quality is just dreadful. I even tried to change the bitrate to 6k, but there was no change in quality. But thanks for letting me know, if you don't mind what would be the downside of having both caps on and Display caps?
Nothing immediately jumps out. Are you playing Minecraft at 720p, by the way? If you're just taking the capture source and squishing it down, it's going to look awful. It's still a downscale in that case, just a worse-quality one.
Can you post a Clip showing the video issue? 720p30@4000kbps on the Fast preset should look pretty good, actually.
 

MrSefaaa

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Nothing immediately jumps out. Are you playing Minecraft at 720p, by the way? If you're just taking the capture source and squishing it down, it's going to look awful. It's still a downscale in that case, just a worse-quality one.
Can you post a Clip showing the video issue? 720p30@4000kbps on the Fast preset should look pretty good, actually.
Um my monitor is 1920x1080p so no? I think? And how do you want me to post a clip?
 

FerretBomb

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Um my monitor is 1920x1080p so no? I think? And how do you want me to post a clip?
Yep. So squishing down the capture isn't going to improve anything.
You appear to be streaming to Twitch, in your log. If you have VOD storage enabled, just link to one of your VODs, or take a Clip while you're streaming and post that here.
 

MrSefaaa

New Member
Yep. So squishing down the capture isn't going to improve anything.
You appear to be streaming to Twitch, in your log. If you have VOD storage enabled, just link to one of your VODs, or take a Clip while you're streaming and post that here.
 

FerretBomb

Active Member
That video looks fine for a 720p30 video stream, especially given the extremely wide FOV you're using, large amounts of motion and high detail involved.
You might need to bump up to streaming at 1080p30 at 6000kbps, see if that will give you the clarity you're after... a downscale is always going to look fairly soft-edged.
 
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