AUDIO SETTINGS FOR VIDEO STREAMING RECORDING

Nile

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Hello, I've managed to setup up OBS & have everything working OK ,so far, apart from Audio. It is capturing Audio from Video that I'm streaming but on playback audio quality sounds over-compressed & like bad speakers (like a mobile phone speaker) . The quality of the streaming (non-recorded) Audio is perfect.

Any advice much appreciated:)

Nile.
 

AaronD

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By "streaming", do you mean the output of OBS, recorded by YouTube or other platform? Because that's what "streaming" normally means. That should be identical to the recording that comes directly from OBS. If they're different, then you're likely to have a playback problem, which would be outside of OBS.

Or by "streaming", do you mean the raw input that OBS receives? It sounds like you mean this one, but using a term that means something else makes it confusing. Anyway, in this case, screenshot your settings. Maybe you missed something (OBS's audio is a mess), or there's a filter somewhere that you forgot about (lots of things can have filters, not just sources), or something like that.

It could also be that you have multiple copies of the same source, and they interfere with each other.
 

Nile

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By "streaming", do you mean the output of OBS, recorded by YouTube or other platform? Because that's what "streaming" normally means. That should be identical to the recording that comes directly from OBS. If they're different, then you're likely to have a playback problem, which would be outside of OBS.

Or by "streaming", do you mean the raw input that OBS receives? It sounds like you mean this one, but using a term that means something else makes it confusing. Anyway, in this case, screenshot your settings. Maybe you missed something (OBS's audio is a mess), or there's a filter somewhere that you forgot about (lots of things can have filters, not just sources), or something like that.

It could also be that you have multiple copies of the same source, and they interfere with each other.
Thank you very much for the reply. Forgive my late reply to this, I could not right click 'screenshot' in OBS when I first tried to reply & hence left the whole issue out of frustration. Have since discovered 'snippet' tool(!) Please find attached screenshots ,let me know if that is what you were referring to or you need something else. Thanks.
I think you are correct re 'raw input that OBS receives'.
Also, I tried re-loading OBS on a 2nd PC to see if default settings were any different(better) & regards last screenshot ,I now cannot find out how to get rid of that multiple window effect.
Thank you for any assistance you can offer,
sincerely,
Niall.
 

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AaronD

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You have the Desktop Audio and the Monitoring Device both set to Default. Two problems with that, that may or may not have something to do with your issue:
  1. Default can and will eventually change which actual device it points to, with no indication of that. So at some seemingly random time, it suddenly won't work, without you having done anything. That's because Windows thought you wanted to use something different (Windoze is stoopid), and the Default setting in OBS follows that.
    It's good to show that a fresh installation works, as the most likely to be connected to *something*, with zero knowledge of anything yet, but it's a liability beyond that. Never use Default! Always choose a specific device *in OBS*. Then it won't change on you, and it'll keep working.
  2. Being set to the same device, the Desktop will pick up the Monitor too. Depending on how fast your audio system is, that could sound like anything, from a discrete echo to a sort-of "metallic distortion", or anything in between. The only difference between those extremes is the time delay between two copies of the same thing.
What do you have in here? Are you sending anything to the Monitor?:
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AaronD

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@Nile, I'm running into all sorts os issues trying to get OSB to even SEE my camcorder. Any tips?

Stick to your thread here:
Don't hijack another one for something unrelated to it.
 

Nile

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@Nile, I'm running into all sorts os issues trying to get OSB to even SEE my camcorder. Any tips?
Hi there, I'm the one having the issues with OBS myself ,AaronD kindly helped me previously & who I am communicating with here, you might need to ask Him He knows what He is talking about. Hope you get sorted!
 

Nile

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You have the Desktop Audio and the Monitoring Device both set to Default. Two problems with that, that may or may not have something to do with your issue:
  1. Default can and will eventually change which actual device it points to, with no indication of that. So at some seemingly random time, it suddenly won't work, without you having done anything. That's because Windows thought you wanted to use something different (Windoze is stoopid), and the Default setting in OBS follows that.
    It's good to show that a fresh installation works, as the most likely to be connected to *something*, with zero knowledge of anything yet, but it's a liability beyond that. Never use Default! Always choose a specific device *in OBS*. Then it won't change on you, and it'll keep working.
  2. Being set to the same device, the Desktop will pick up the Monitor too. Depending on how fast your audio system is, that could sound like anything, from a discrete echo to a sort-of "metallic distortion", or anything in between. The only difference between those extremes is the time delay between two copies of the same thing.
What do you have in here? Are you sending anything to the Monitor?:
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I could find the audio properties but not the 'advanced' audio properties window, sorry. Made a few attempts. Are these attachments relevant at all ? I'm trying to search right now all info to do with what is being sent to monitor............
 

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Nile

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(Part 2) This was all VERY helpful thank you so much. I'm realizing how much detail is involved in what is an incredibly capable piece of software, learning to gain control over it is a challange for a non-tech creature like me.
 

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Nile

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You have the Desktop Audio and the Monitoring Device both set to Default. Two problems with that, that may or may not have something to do with your issue:
  1. Default can and will eventually change which actual device it points to, with no indication of that. So at some seemingly random time, it suddenly won't work, without you having done anything. That's because Windows thought you wanted to use something different (Windoze is stoopid), and the Default setting in OBS follows that.
    It's good to show that a fresh installation works, as the most likely to be connected to *something*, with zero knowledge of anything yet, but it's a liability beyond that. Never use Default! Always choose a specific device *in OBS*. Then it won't change on you, and it'll keep working.
  2. Being set to the same device, the Desktop will pick up the Monitor too. Depending on how fast your audio system is, that could sound like anything, from a discrete echo to a sort-of "metallic distortion", or anything in between. The only difference between those extremes is the time delay between two copies of the same thing.
What do you have in here? Are you sending anything to the Monitor?:
View attachment 100979
(Part 3) Got it ! (or maybe same as I already just sent, but just noticed it is definitely the 'advanced audio properties') ATTACHED.
 

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AaronD

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I could find the audio properties but not the 'advanced' audio properties window, sorry. Made a few attempts. Are these attachments relevant at all ? I'm trying to search right now all info to do with what is being sent to monitor............
(Part 3) Got it ! (or maybe same as I already just sent, but just noticed it is definitely the 'advanced audio properties') ATTACHED.
Yep, you found it! And you're not sending anything to the Monitor, so its device selection doesn't matter. You don't have that feedback loop.

...on playback audio quality sounds over-compressed & like bad speakers (like a mobile phone speaker) . The quality of the streaming (non-recorded) Audio is perfect.
Back to the original question, I'm still not entirely sure about the difference between your stream and the recording. Are you using the stream encoder to feed the recording also? Or are you encoding twice with different settings? There's value both ways, and different potential problems.

And as you might expect by now, screenshots of *those* settings would be appreciated, and links to two recordings of the same thing. One is a DVR'ed stream that your platform records for you, and the other is recorded by OBS at the same time and uploaded later. Also paste the URL of a logfile from that same session, both here and into the analyzer that you can get to from my signature or from the Help menu. Help -> Log Files -> Upload...
 

AaronD

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(Part 2) This was all VERY helpful thank you so much. I'm realizing how much detail is involved in what is an incredibly capable piece of software, learning to gain control over it is a challange for a non-tech creature like me.
It helps a LOT to come from this sort of background:
I built that rig a bunch of years ago and really enjoy running it! Somewhat sadly though, it's getting replaced with digital. Not a complete loss, as I'm taking the old gear home with me, but still...

Anyway, building and running a capable analog audio rig like that, does wonders for your ability to follow signals around, find feedback loops, and look for ways to get *exactly* what you want, or figure out what it's probably actually doing, *somewhere* in the digital mess of menus, and track that down.

I have a couple of OBS rigs that use a DAW for audio, and OBS only knows about the final finished soundtrack to pass through completely unchanged. The Digital Audio Workstation allows both a library of processors that would completely fill your living room if it were analog, AND the freeform routing of an analog rig. You can't even get that on most consoles, until you get to a price point of selling your house to afford it, at which point it's practically a DAW with physical controls added on.

The new digital rig above is nowhere near that expensive. In some ways it does more, in other ways it actually does less, but what I really don't like is that it loses the sense of the operator being directly connected to the machine. An analog rig directly changes the circuit itself that is actually processing *that* signal, whether it's a mic or a guitar or whatever. The controls literally and directly change the circuitry, and that's all there is.
With digital, it's like telling someone else (the software) what to do, and they do it for you. You have to trust the "closed and locked box", whereas I could build the analog board above from scratch if I had to. (and I *have* been in there a few times with a soldering iron)

The huge advantage though, to this new digital rig, is the ability to push a standard set of settings into it every time it turns on, regardless of how the previous guy left it, so that the next untrained volunteer doesn't have to know the entire rig to be able to recover from who-knows-what.
Analog settings are simply the positions of the controls, and that's it. No other memory or communication. So an analog operator does have to know a little bit in order to not fall into a minefield of wacky leftover settings.

By the way, most digital rigs try to emulate at least *some* analog familiarity, including preserved settings across sessions. So the auto-reset is something I have to set up explicitly. (this will be the second time I've done that: there's a computer next to the sound board, that stays on 24/7 and runs a script that watches for the board to appear on the network; then it waits a few more seconds so it can finish starting up, and throws a specific settings file at it)
OBS is no exception with the (somewhat) analog emulation and preserved settings. And according to a number of reports and questions on this forum, it even remembers across an uninstall/reinstall cycle, and so their old problem is *still* there, even after that!

One of my annoyances with software in general is that very few things uninstall cleanly, and OBS is one of the worst about that. But it's not a problem as long as you keep it and it works.
 
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