Question / Help Twitch stream constant frame rate drops

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Tre

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I'm not sure where to post this but im trying to stream and have spent hours and days looking at videos and forums to try and figure out why i can not have a smooth twitch stream

I have an alienware X51 R2
i7 4770
gtx 760 1GB

My DL is 50 MBPS and Up Load is between 6000 kbs and 7000 kbs

I have tried everything known to man to get a nice stream and im hardlined into my router.

the only time i dont seem to get frame rate drops is if i set the bitrate at 400 and downscale the video to 420p

I have tried messing with the Advanced setting changing everything looking through other forums but there is really no clear instruction on what would work best.

If i try to do 720p or 1080p and hit stream i get the green then yellow and red bar and my Frame rate drops to over 80% even at 500 bitrate i get 1 to 5%

I have also tried quicksync and NVENC,


Im officially lost as to what to do. nothing seems to be working at all. I have messed with the setting for faster very fast and nothing seems to make it better. Just frustrated now not being able to find a good answer anywhere. If i try to run higher quality it lags out very badly with frame drops and with Low quality i get frame drops and its pixelated.

Can anyone help at all??????
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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Post a logfile from the Help menu, as it requests any time you open a thread in Q&H.
We really do need it to be able to help.
 
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Tre

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FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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Looks like San Francisco or Seattle are your best servers, and you're trying to stream to New York. Switch servers.

Additionally, you're streaming over wifi, which should be avoided at all costs as it isn't meant for high-throughput constant rate applications like livestreaming. It's meant for use by lightweight mobile devices, not to replace cabling. Run a network cable.
 
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Tre

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I hooked up the ethernet last night I'm not sure why i connected to WIFI. I had been trying to stream out of Ashburn VA. My WiFi card must be overriding my ethernet cable. I thought i was sure i disconnected from the WiFi. But this information does help a lot as well. I greatly appreciate the program link to see where my connection was better at.
 
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Tre

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Now i just have to figure the settings for obs and myset up. I ran wired last night for a little bit but still had the same issues as i did when i was wireless. I cant figure out what to se everything to
 
FerretBomb

FerretBomb

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Your settings look perfect for a non-partnered stream, aside from streaming to the wrong server and over wifi.

Yes, adapter priority needs to be set at the OS level. Need to move the wired connection higher in the list than the wifi dongle.

San Francisco and Seattle are your two best servers from that list, assuming you ran it on your streaming machine/connection, and not from the work computer (we've had someone do that one before, and not understand why he got the wrong readings).
 
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dping

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FerretBomb said:
Your settings look perfect for a non-partnered stream, aside from streaming to the wrong server and over wifi.

Yes, adapter priority needs to be set at the OS level. Need to move the wired connection higher in the list than the wifi dongle.

San Francisco and Seattle are your two best servers from that list, assuming you ran it on your streaming machine/connection, and not from the work computer (we've had someone do that one before, and not understand why he got the wrong readings).
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Not completely. @Tre Enable aero for game capture use. it seems like you are experimenting with settings such as 0 buffer, and trying to stream 1080@60 on one log.

1080@60 is pretty much reserved for local recording only due to the outstanding amount of bitrate needed and the viewers you will lose from both the resolution and anything over 3000 bitrate.

0 buffer is a local recording only setting used with VBR to enable constant quality (not constant bitrate). This is horrible for streaming as it will fluctuate the bitrate a lot to maintain quality. a steady CBR (with padding) stream is needed to allow a steady flow of data to twitch

Recommended:

720@30fps no more than 3000 bitrate (change to 2500 or lower if viewers complain about buffering).

if you want to increase quality you can drop the preset for 720@30 to like medium preset. This would be best for viewability and quality.
 
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Tre

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I went home for lunch and got on my home pc lol. I will be headed back home tonight and I will try it again. I sure hope this helps. Didn't understandall the advanced settings in obs and I have multiple logs trying different bit rates and resolutions. I also tried multithreading at different levels and changed from fast to veryfast. And slow underadvanced as well. I had clicked pretty much every button on and off trying to tweak OBS.
 
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Tre

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I ran the log in before i started to stream that day and it said that Texas was the best option for the stream at 5500 but i guess my settings are not right the rest of the way through. I even thought i down scaled to 720p with 30fps and i got over 50% frame rate drop. I guess i should keep multi threading off and dont use cfr.. im not really sure what else to do. I run this bandwidth test now before i stream.. last time it told me to use Ashburn VA then Texas.
 
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dping

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Tre said:
I ran the log in before i started to stream that day and it said that Texas was the best option for the stream at 5500 but i guess my settings are not right the rest of the way through. I even thought i down scaled to 720p with 30fps and i got over 50% frame rate drop. I guess i should keep multi threading off and dont use cfr.. im not really sure what else to do. I run this bandwidth test now before i stream.. last time it told me to use Ashburn VA then Texas.
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I guess you didn't read what I said two posts ago.

1080@60 is pretty much reserved for local recording only due to the outstanding amount of bitrate needed and the viewers you will lose from both the resolution and anything over 3000 bitrate.

0 buffer is a local recording only setting used with VBR to enable constant quality (not constant bitrate). This is horrible for streaming as it will fluctuate the bitrate a lot to maintain quality. a steady CBR (with padding) stream is needed to allow a steady flow of data to twitch

Recommended:

720@30fps no more than 3000 bitrate (change to 2500 or lower if viewers complain about buffering).

if you want to increase quality you can drop the preset for 720@30 to like medium preset. This would be best for viewability and quality.
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